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    Default Re: Whether or not God exists is inconsequential to the human experience

    If atheism is true, then life is ultimately meaningless. Thus, the contributions of the scientist to the advance of human knowledge, the research of the doctor to alleviate pain and suffering, the efforts of the diplomat to secure peace in the world, the sacrifices of good people everywhere to better the lot of the human race—ultimately all these come to nothing. Your life is inconsequential.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Hosakawa Tito View Post
    If atheism is true, then life is ultimately meaningless.
    Why does there need to be a god to validate what is meaningful?

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    Default Re: Whether or not God exists is inconsequential to the human experience

    For many people the belief in God is hope, and hope makes a tremendous psychlogical difference for them. Is a life without hope inconsequential ?
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    Default Re: Whether or not God exists is inconsequential to the human experience

    Quote Originally Posted by Hosakawa Tito View Post
    Is a life without hope inconsequential ?
    That depends on what one defines as consequential. Is living one's life as if it were simply a transition to the afterlife consequential?

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    Default Re: Whether or not God exists is inconsequential to the human experience

    Quote Originally Posted by PanzerJaeger View Post
    That depends on what one defines as consequential. Is living one's life as if it were simply a transition to the afterlife consequential?
    For some people it is, but there is more than one path to the top o' the mountain; who's to say any are the wrong way. Funny, I used to know a lot more when I was younger than I do today.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Hosakawa Tito View Post
    For some people it is, but there is more than one path to the top o' the mountain; who's to say any are the wrong way.
    Not me. I have a lot of respect for people of faith. I just don't agree that an atheistic world view renders life meaningless.

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    Default Re: Whether or not God exists is inconsequential to the human experience

    The 'meaning of life' is to reproduce in a stable environment so life continues. In otherwords, live your life in peace and harmony, fostering an environment where all, especially your children will grow up safe and secure.

    What other values and meanings you want to add onto that, is entirely up to you. But forcing others to live in conflict and dispair, trying to justify it by suggesting they will be rewarded in sugar-candy mountain is simply exploitation and degrading life.

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    Default Re: Whether or not God exists is inconsequential to the human experience

    Hah! Without checking previous votes, I voted 'disagree'. As did, so it turned out, the religious fundamentalist crowd.

    All you silly atheists who voted 'A' are wrong and will burn in hell!!


    Quote Originally Posted by Hosakawa Tito View Post
    If atheism is true, then life is ultimately meaningless. Thus, the contributions of the scientist to the advance of human knowledge, the research of the doctor to alleviate pain and suffering, the efforts of the diplomat to secure peace in the world, the sacrifices of good people everywhere to better the lot of the human race—ultimately all these come to nothing. Your life is inconsequential.


    For many people the belief in God is hope, and hope makes a tremendous psychlogical difference for them. Is a life without hope inconsequential ?
    I think all of this qualifies as the exact opposite to Banquo's (in)famous Camus quote:
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    "If there is a sin against life, it consists not so much in despairing as in hoping for another life and in eluding the implacable grandeur of this one."
    Albert Camus, "Noces"



    At any rate, lots of famous, Gauloises-puffing, sexually experimentative French left bank philosophers disagree with you etc etc
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