I Don't Like Europe

[gaelic cowboy]

I always thought it was a catchy tune they had

[InsaneApache]

[Vladimir]

I always thought it was a catchy tune they had

Wait. Let me add an exception.

[Megas Methuselah]

I, also, don't like Europe.

Btw, I was under the impression that you are a European yourself.

[Strike For The South]

Texas=France

[pevergreen]

I always thought it was a catchy tune they had

Grr, you got in before me.

[PanzerJaeger]

I would love to live in Germany if it weren't for the gun laws.

[Sarmatian]

Indeed, Germany filled with M16s, howitzers, submachine guns etc... would be a heaven on earth.

I like Spain, myself. Warm, sunny, pretty women, good wine and siesta. Ah, you can't beat that

[Kagemusha]

So essentially Europe has become so united that you view it as single entity in your mind? Interesting. About the American troops in Europe. I actually agree. Soviet Union and Warsaw pact are long gone. There really isnt a reason for US troops to stay in Europe anymore, specially when modern Russia has GDP smaller then for example Spain. Those US resources are better used somewhere else.

[Fragony]

So essentially Europe has become so united that you view it as single entity in your mind? Interesting.

Indeed. When a Euro is asked where he's from in the states he will tell you the country he's from, not Europe. An American in Europe will say the US, not the state he's from. Seeing it as a single entity isn't going to help understanding it, even in a country as small the Netherlands the north is completely different from the south. America isn't nearly as individualist as they like to think.

[Skullheadhq]

Indeed. When a Euro is asked where he's from in the states he will tell you the country he's from, not Europe. An American in Europe will say the US, not the state he's from. Seeing it as a single entity isn't going to help understanding it, even in a country as small the Netherlands the north is completely different from the south. America isn't nearly as individualist as they like to think.

Every village is different here.

[Fragony]

Every village is different here.

Ya, Europe is best understood with sport and the hooligan, where Americans have a may the best man win attitude we have petty rivalries, between towns and even villages, or even neighbourhoods.

[Megas Methuselah]

Indeed. When a Euro is asked where he's from in the states he will tell you the country he's from, not Europe. An American in Europe will say the US, not the state he's from. Seeing it as a single entity isn't going to help understanding it, even in a country as small the Netherlands the north is completely different from the south. America isn't nearly as individualist as they like to think.

The warriors who stood at Wounded Knee in '73 might disagree. And don't forget the Haudenosaunee who've been defending their land against encroachment on both sides of the border; those boys are vicious nationalists...

[gaelic cowboy]

I always thought Wounded Knee 73 was more an overly enthusiastic reaction by the security forces to what had started out as an employment dispute

[Husar]

I would love to live in Germany if it weren't for the gun laws.

So you love the socialized healthcare, too?

I like Spain, myself. Warm, sunny, pretty women, good wine and siesta. Ah, you can't beat that

Don't they have even more unemployment than we do? I heard a lot of eastern europeans who used to work in spain are moving back to their home countries because the job situation in Spain has gotten so bad.

Indeed. When a Euro is asked where he's from in the states he will tell you the country he's from, not Europe. An American in Europe will say the US, not the state he's from.

As tourists perhaps, but they often behave like they own the internet, giving their location as:
Hottentotten, VA
Silly Hills, GA
and so on, as if everybody knew that GA means Georgia which is actually a country to the south of Russia.

America isn't nearly as individualist as they like to think.

Of course they're not, they have corporate identity which actually means everybody in a company or university is completely indoctrinated into thinking their company/university is the best and then they have the army which has to be supported or you're not a real american.

About the American troops in Europe.

Their imperialist power-projecting invaders should go home!
And they should take their stupid hospital that saves the lives of their wounded stormtroopers all the time with them!
I don't see why we proud people still have to live under their oppression like this! Our army should march into their bases and tell them to get out immediately, we need to restore our sovereignty and control over our territory, then expell their FBI, CIA and whatever agents, stop giving them our national secrets, remove fingerprint data from our travel passports and demand 20€ advertisement fees from american tourists so we can advertise our beer on american television all day.
We get our gas from Russia, what has America ever given us anyway?

Also @ Louis:
And yeah, I don't like America either, except Brazil, because of the girls, and the USA, they're kinda cool...oops...

[Vladimir]

I, also, don't like Europe.

Btw, I was under the impression that you are a European yourself.

Thank you? My ancestors are European, from Poland to Spain, and Italy to Ireland. I'm a mutt heavily influenced by European thought and genetics.

Which country did you think I was from?

So essentially Europe has become so united that you view it as single entity in your mind? Interesting. About the American troops in Europe. I actually agree. Soviet Union and Warsaw pact are long gone. There really isnt a reason for US troops to stay in Europe anymore, specially when modern Russia has GDP smaller then for example Spain. Those US resources are better used somewhere else.

Well, yea.

Of course, like everything, my views on that are based on my perceptions and biases. My expectation is that Europe finally become a single political entity with varying and unique cultures. The withdraw of U.S. forces will speed that process. We're cultural and ideological cousins and will continue our close relationship.

Europe as a whole is slowly coming to find that standard of living might require producing something. In the UK Unions were asking for the usual: increased wages, increased job security and increased pensions. Now, I'm not trained in economics, but I'd have far more respect if these things were priced. Of course, this would mean that for a 37.5 hour week the average worker would have to be producing multiples of what they currently are.

I don't see why doing a job merely to feed one's family is such a horror story. I know that many would prefer most of life's basics to magically appear but sadly that doesn't work - even with off-shoring the amount of misery that we currently do by subsidising our way of living by transferring the nasty bits to the developing world.

Good. The European economy has taken a subdued role on the global stage. If you people can make consumer products as good as your supercars, you'll be fine.

Louis: That's Africa.