I give up.

[pevergreen]

what? I paid for her ticket, I at least deserve something past "hey I'm gonna go talk to *insert friend name here*" all night long. if she didn't intend on spending any time with me she shouldn't have said yes in the first place.

Why?

She isn't yours for the night, you bought her ticket, not the ticket to owning her for the night.

You expected something different than she did, you aren't ready, and neither are other girls your age.

[naut]

dont sound much like it here, but i'm really very gentlemanly most of the time, really classy actually. maybe thats my problem? I need to treat girls like the ground i walk on like most other people do?

Yes.

Oh, not more "nice guy"s.

"You don't have to be an ego-inflated, arrogant jerk. You just have to LIKE yourself. You have to know what you want out of life, and go after it."

You aren't ready. You don't do something nice or gentlemanly because you'll get something in return. That is no longer being nice or gentlemanly, that is emotional manipulation with an underlying motive. You do it because it is the nice thing to do.

I may be coming off as a hard-nosed , but that's what you really need. You don't need your ego stroked and a reassuring arm round the shoulder. You need some cold-hard perspective. So do as the Texan said earlier, do the more important things in your life first. Set some goals, set some things you want to achieve. And go after them. As a result you'll gain confidence, self-esteem and you'll find yourself swimming in ladies who are interested in you because you are interesting and driven.

[Hooahguy]

Whoa! I DID NOT mean to say that you should treat her like dirt! Is that what I came across as saying? I really need to read more carefully your posts before I reply. oops

[Cute Wolf]

virgin power!

now, just relax, be grateful, and pray that you'll never doing "that sin" before you got married and be proud, real men in earlier part of this century (and ancient ages) also doing that... including someone today who lived on the backside of the earth...

[Prussian to the Iron]

Why?

She isn't yours for the night, you bought her ticket, not the ticket to owning her for the night.

You expected something different than she did, you aren't ready, and neither are other girls your age.

again, I didn't say that I expected her to be with me 100% of the time, but she literally spent 0 time with me. if she didn't intend on even speaking to me except to tell me that she didnt want to dance, she shouldn't have ever accepted in the first place.

Oh, not more "nice guy"s.

"You don't have to be an ego-inflated, arrogant jerk. You just have to LIKE yourself. You have to know what you want out of life, and go after it."

You aren't ready. You don't do something nice or gentlemanly because you'll get something in return. That is no longer being nice or gentlemanly, that is emotional manipulation with an underlying motive. You do it because it is the nice thing to do.

I may be coming off as a hard-nosed , but that's what you really need. You don't need your ego stroked and a reassuring arm round the shoulder. You need some cold-hard perspective. So do as the Texan said earlier, do the more important things in your life first. Set some goals, set some things you want to achieve. And go after them. As a result you'll gain confidence, self-esteem and you'll find yourself swimming in ladies who are interested in you because you are interesting and driven.

I don't do it because i want something in return, it's just natural for me to treat people nicely in general, probably nicer than most people do. really, the only times I ever get mad are if somebody touches me agressively, like pushing, punching, etc. I keep a cool demeanor and treat people well, I treat females especially in high regard on whole, not because I hope to get something, but because its an instinct.

[Hax]

now, just relax, be grateful, and pray that you'll never doing "that sin" before you got married

Take this proselytising elsewhere, like the Backroom for example. This concept of "sin" is most likely not his concept of sin, nor is it my concept of sin.

I don't do it because i want something in return, it's just natural for me to treat people nicely in general, probably nicer than most people do.

I don't really think these assumptions are necessary.

[Prussian to the Iron]

I don't really think these assumptions are necessary.

assumptions? not really. people are total a-holes to eachother. I am almost never mean to anyone. except this 8th grader in my German class. pissing me off. frickin under-underclassmen. underunderunder. ********.

[Hax]

assumptions? not really. people are total a-holes to eachother. I am almost never mean to anyone. except this 8th grader in my German class. pissing me off. frickin under-underclassmen. underunderunder. bastards.

What, for the 20-ish people you know? Stop behaving like you're the only moral person in the world, please. It only puts off more and more people, which is quite counterproductive. There's a lot of good in the world, if you know where to find it.

[Prussian to the Iron]

i know I'm not, but out of the 2,000 people at my school, several hundred of which I at least know a small bit about, I don't see anybody that's anywhere near as moral as I am. I don't goad it anywhere, the only reason it comes up here is because you said that I made an assumption that you may not know much about. perhaps you were raised in a different environment? this is a mostly rich-kid school, so a lot of people are douchebags.

you know nothing about the places I attend or the people I know, they are probably far different from your own experiences.

[pevergreen]

I am almost never mean to anyone. except this 8th grader in my German class. pissing me off. frickin under-underclassmen. underunderunder. bastards.

But you're the only real moral guy.

I've got nothing against being rude to people who deserve it. Out of my 274 student graduating year, I talk to 2, and I'm nice to about another 20. The others don't deserve it. But, as below...

i know I'm not, but out of the 2,000 people at my school, several hundred of which I at least know a small bit about, I don't see anybody that's anywhere near as moral as I am. I don't goad it anywhere, the only reason it comes up here is because you said that I made an assumption that you may not know much about. perhaps you were raised in a different environment? this is a mostly rich-kid school, so a lot of people are douchebags.

you know nothing about the places I attend or the people I know, they are probably far different from your own experiences.

It comes up quite a lot in your posts, and it doesn't give a good impression of you. I'm sure you're no worse than any other kid your age (and probably me at the same age) but it isn't exactly a glowing recommendation for you.
Also, why are you getting so defensive? You make these threads and we comment on them, we aren't your mother or father, we aren't going to wipe your arse.

again, I didn't say that I expected her to be with me 100% of the time, but she literally spent 0 time with me. if she didn't intend on even speaking to me except to tell me that she didnt want to dance, she shouldn't have ever accepted in the first place.

Its a bit hard for me to know what was said and what she was thinking. You offered to buy her ticket. That in itself is nothing, she is no obligated to spend time with you because of that, if you had of said (and you may have) that you wanted to go with her, and therefore buy her ticket, that would imply something from your side of the relationship, but she may not have thought that way and so you needed to make sure you were both on the same page. Sure, you can be a little pissed that she didn't 'hang' with you, but she didn't do anything wrong, she is a different person, with a different thought process than you.

[Megas Methuselah]

Maybe they dont have chivalry in Canada?

We count coup.

[Hax]

you know nothing about the places I attend or the people I know, they are probably far different from your own experiences.

Correct, however, I do know human beings, and they're not nearly as bad as you describe them to be. And seriously, how much faith are you putting in a bunch of fifteen year olds?

[Strike For The South]

i know I'm not, but out of the 2,000 people at my school, several hundred of which I at least know a small bit about, I don't see anybody that's anywhere near as moral as I am. I don't goad it anywhere, the only reason it comes up here is because you said that I made an assumption that you may not know much about. perhaps you were raised in a different environment? this is a mostly rich-kid school, so a lot of people are douchebags.

you know nothing about the places I attend or the people I know, they are probably far different from your own experiences.

The old "woe is me" card.

Here's a news flash kid, people get screwed and peoples lives suck yet somehow they still have the courage to wake up in the morning and make your mcmuffin while you bitch and moan about the newest flavor of the hour.

Why get angry about something so inconsequntial? So she wasn't into you BFD, move on.

If this how you react about a girl I shudder to think about what happens to you when real problems come knocking at your door. Far worse things have befallen far better people.

[Skullheadhq]

now, just relax, be grateful, and pray that you'll never doing "that sin" before you got married and be proud, real men in earlier part of this century (and ancient ages) also doing that... including someone today who lived on the backside of the earth...

A wise man

[Samurai Waki]

... hmmm, lots of self pity going on these days 'round here.

Look PI, fact of the matter is you're fifteen, and I'm not saying that to talk down to you. I'm saying it, because being a teenager sucks. It's that simple. Your chemical composition is completely askew, chances are you look the worst you will ever look in your entire life, and to top that off girls are starting to look REALLY, REALLY good right about now. Trouble with that is, you've also got the rest of your life to consider. Hooking up with girls, getting laid... that all sounds pretty awesome, except for the fact that girls around your age are also going through something similar to what you are going through. Except they become self-righteous, bipolar-masochists... and they don't get out of that mode until you are well into your early twenties, or actually, sometimes never (come to think of it). So, relax dude; take each day as it comes, focus on school, play TW at nights and on the weekends, be mischievous ... and for the love of god, don't be so serious... there's a certain comedic factor when it comes to courtship.

[Moros]

As has been said before, in this thread and previous ones. Perhaps it's all due to the fact that you're not ready.

[Samurai Waki]

As has been said before, in this thread and previous ones. Perhaps it's all due to the fact that you're not ready.

Of course he's not ready, nobody his age should be ready. However, a good lot are going to think they are, and are going to say "To hell with the consequences of my actions" because that's what youngsters tend to do, and only after he's gotten a good ribbing will he realize that it's a bad idea to share his woes about girls that could've been over an open forum.

[Hax]

because that's what youngsters tend to do, and only after he's gotten a good ribbing will he realize that it's a bad idea to share his woes about girls that could've been over an open forum.

I plead guilty, your honour.

[Prussian to the Iron]

It comes up quite a lot in your posts, and it doesn't give a good impression of you. I'm sure you're no worse than any other kid your age (and probably me at the same age) but it isn't exactly a glowing recommendation for you.
Also, why are you getting so defensive? You make these threads and we comment on them, we aren't your mother or father, we aren't going to wipe your arse.



Its a bit hard for me to know what was said and what she was thinking. You offered to buy her ticket. That in itself is nothing, she is no obligated to spend time with you because of that, if you had of said (and you may have) that you wanted to go with her, and therefore buy her ticket, that would imply something from your side of the relationship, but she may not have thought that way and so you needed to make sure you were both on the same page. Sure, you can be a little pissed that she didn't 'hang' with you, but she didn't do anything wrong, she is a different person, with a different thought process than you.

defensive? because you keep saying that I'm over-emphasizing/talking too much about it.

She did agree to go with me. I didn't offer to buy her ticket until a few days after she already said she would go with me. I went to her house, she called me her date (which in and of itself doesn't mean anything admittedly), and we rode together, after she agreed to go WITH ME. I'd say she understood that we went together.

[Samurai Waki]

defensive? because you keep saying that I'm over-emphasizing/talking too much about it.

She did agree to go with me. I didn't offer to buy her ticket until a few days after she already said she would go with me. I went to her house, she called me her date (which in and of itself doesn't mean anything admittedly), and we rode together, after she agreed to go WITH ME. I'd say she understood that we went together.

Even so, she agreed to go with you, not to be with you... and you're mixing the two up.

As Strike mentioned: Why be so upset over something so inconsequential?

You really shouldn't be losing any sleep over something so small, why make a mountain out of a mole hill? Rejection is a fact of life. As awesome as I am, I've been passed over for jobs and opportunities I thought I deserved... it happens, but if you let it get to you and affect you whose fault do you think it is? It's not their fault for not realizing your awesomeness, it's your fault. Some people just can't handle how cool I really am, and it's their loss not mine.

[Prussian to the Iron]

so, agreeing to be my date, go with me, let me pay for her ticket, take pictures beforehand and shes the only one who didnt think it was a date date.....and she meant she would go with me, not be with me, despite the fact that I rode with her, so I really went with her? I think you're changing the intended meaning. we both knew what it meant, but she decided to go off and leave me by myself rather than even dance when I asked her, or at least talk to me.

[Samurai Waki]

so, agreeing to be my date, go with me, let me pay for her ticket, take pictures beforehand and shes the only one who didnt think it was a date date.....and she meant she would go with me, not be with me, despite the fact that I rode with her, so I really went with her? I think you're changing the intended meaning. we both knew what it meant, but she decided to go off and leave me by myself rather than even dance when I asked her, or at least talk to me.

Not at all. It's a non-binding contract, she didn't agree to do anything with you other than go (and even if she did sign a contract that she'd go and hang out with you the whole time it would still be against her Constitutional Rights) and therefore she's free to do whatever she wants... leave you in the dust even. I'm only using this as an example, because even under the law she's in the right. A rose by any other name, is still a rose; love it, hate it... there's nothing you can do about it. Move on.

[a completely inoffensive name]

Holy crap man, ***** more.

[Megas Methuselah]

I was used by a girl before, but not out of money. She just wanted to get in my pants.

Life can be unfair sometimes, I know.

[Skullheadhq]

I was used by a girl before, but not out of money. She just wanted to get in my pants.

Lies.

[caravel]

Gah, kids are under so much pressure to grow up these days. Enjoy your youth while you can.

[Louis VI the Fat]

I too have been used by women before!!

Just last month! I only agreed to take them out. But Vanessa and Frida, the two eightteen year old Swedish girls, assumed it meant I agreed to a sex date with them.


It was absolutely dreadful! Frida, the blond chesty one, took advantage of my advanced state of inebriation to get into my pants, while Vanessa, the redhead, tore off her *censored* then reached out her *censored* and *censored* my *censored* .

Awful.

[Strike For The South]

I too have been used by women before!!

Just last month! I only agreed to take them out. But Vanessa and Frida, the two eightteen year old Swedish girls, assumed it meant I agreed to a sex date with them.


It was absolutely dreadful! Frida, the blond chesty one, took advantage of my advanced state of inebriation to get into my pants, while Vanessa, the redhead, tore off her *censored* then reached out her *censored* and *censored* my *censored* .

Awful.

Haha, Outercourse

[pevergreen]

Vanessa did what?

Because I'm trying to think what you are implying and I can't think of anything that fits, and if it does, the first two don't need to be censored.

[Prussian to the Iron]

Not at all. It's a non-binding contract, she didn't agree to do anything with you other than go (and even if she did sign a contract that she'd go and hang out with you the whole time it would still be against her Constitutional Rights) and therefore she's free to do whatever she wants... leave you in the dust even. I'm only using this as an example, because even under the law she's in the right. A rose by any other name, is still a rose; love it, hate it... there's nothing you can do about it. Move on.

okay whatever. I'm well within the realm of reasonability in believeing she would do something other than leave me, as you put it, in the dust. now you're starting to sound like a lawyer; yah, its not a contract or anything binding obviously, but why would she agree to go with me (before I offred to buy a ticket) if she intended on leaving me alone? think logically, not lawfully.