How many old clans are really coming back?

**Kas** · 10-03-2010, 21:06

When STW2 mp will be good...I expect the return of many old players.

Not so sure about the clans...even when former die hard clan guys return...I think it will be different. We used to stab eachothers backs with passion...now we're much older and just happy to see eachother again.

The old shoggie feeling was special...we defended our own tribe and we fought the others. 7 years or so since...I now want to hug my former enemies.

I predict "the old" will stick together ...some kind of new "uber" clan...without a clan tag.
We don't need to be in a clan anymore I think, we seen it all already...probably too old to be bothered.

Newer clans will jump in...I hope the shoggie atmosphere (honourable behavior and vague stuff like that) will return, but I'm afraid the old will shake their heads, because it won't be the same anymore.

We're now the Statlers and Waldorfs here...lol

**Orda Khan** · 10-03-2010, 21:37

Well I logged in to reply and Kas has more or less done it for me. Time has rolled on and we are all a tad older and now it's like 'wow hello mate, it's so good to see you again after all these years'.
Life sucks, and memories become rose tinted to compensate but let's not try to kid ourselves, Shogun 2 will never be Shogun it doesn't matter how hard we try. Whether it will be another pleasant chapter in the book of nostalgia remains to be seen. To be honest, for me, too many players never even made it to MTW and that's when the series turned to shit IMO, Rome just added to it.
It's way too far down the line to expect all those players and clans to return through some steam time warp. Sad but true.

And Kas, you've always been a softy at heart. If I'm not mistaken you attended more than one TW shindig ;)

**Magyar Khan** · 10-04-2010, 01:10

part of the clan wolves aspect was the hunting on the sheep, collected in other clans.... for this a foyer did trigger me a lot.,... bragging sheep, the everlasting new players asking for challengers and so on... for the competetive aspect a foyer is a must....

i play ntw now and trhen cuz its GUI is not good enough for me.... it isnt made for the cybergamer but more for the sp gamer.... so many checks and doublechecks that for me it looks like starcraft2 also the era is not to my liking..... shogun era catches all whats needed, small time scale, less amount of units, rock scissors paper, the honour, the valour, the pain of hand to hand combat.... :)

i will return and if the gameplay suits me than i will rampage thru many hosted games..... but if the overal cybersport experience dissapoints me i will focus on mp campaigns.... still have the drive to create an online one once again.... if the game cant satisfy me perhaps the intrique between players and clans can ....

so summarized....

Foyer & excellent gameplay = Wolves herding everywhere

**Togakure** · 10-04-2010, 10:44

Six of the 47s (Drisos, Anskar, Ishida, E-Menel, Methos, and me) are still in contact with each other via Facebook but we haven't communicated much in a while. Drisos has mentioned interest in S2TW but is heavily involved with Uni. The others are all pre-occupied with real life. The original forum's still up, but has been relatively lifeless for years now. When the release date is closer I'll see if they intend to give it a whirl.

The idea of being ronin without formal affiliations has always appealed to me, but if it turns out to be good enough to attract a lot of players, it'll probably be like VI, where if you're not in a clan, you'll end up in many games teamed with players you don't know who don't team very well, up against clan squads that do team well and just roll, roll, roll. That gets old after a while and is the main reason why I eventually joined the Hunters.

I think there will be a lot of new players and clans. As has been said, whether or not the old players/clans will really get into it will depend a lot on how good the overall experience is. One can only hope.

**Gregoshi** · 10-04-2010, 13:18

I'm guessing the Doragons will not rise from the ashes.

**Sp00n** · 10-05-2010, 11:40

I'm trialing in Aggony although I've hardly been around due to work and shamefully buying an xbox. Clan Takiyama (Mizu) is doubtful a lot of us split when Rome launched others like Jochi and Marcus are in Ronin.

Tears/Donbatti has been on NTW a bit, but apart from him and Jochi I've not spoken to any others apart from Orda here and a brief convo with CBR on MSN who may consider returning if its good.
Not sure what Yuuki and Tosa will do?

From Shogun days I've always kept in touch with my old clan m8 Linksan/EuroSan from chain and euro clans he may return if the games good. I have also seen some Elite's around.

But like others have said I expect the old to stick together due to the great times we had in Shogun and MTW its amazing how old some of us are these days coughs in Jochis direction :)

Just be nice to see as many old faces as possible tbh.

**Tera** · 10-05-2010, 18:09

Nobody said that resurrecting a clan means bringing back all the old members and continue on the same path as left eight or seven years ago. Too much time has passed for that. Old clans will not "come back" in that form - as we remember them.

What can happen is for a few, or even one, old clan member to resurrect the name and the spirit of their respective clan. Re-build the membership base from grounds up, keep the name and retain the history and values. There will be undoubtedly many new players and at release, the timing will be perfect. It's only a question of leadership and strong will. Happened before, will happen again.

I'm sure the Grey Wolves will make a return and surely many of their future STW2 members will be new, but they will undoubtedly capture the old Wolf spirit. Like them, other clans can come back...

If the game is good and I will like it, I wouldn't mind getting Kenchikuka back on its feet, either. With some luck and some courage, we could easily have 20 new members and still claim to be the oldest clan in Total War. :)