Quote Originally Posted by gamegeek2 View Post
Comparing the Lonchophoroi and the Aspidophoroi doesn't make sense - the two play separate roles.

Now, javelin cavalry are rather underpowered in EB when compared with lancers, which are at a relatively fair power level, and we intend to fix this in NOM by the melee power of non-lance cavalry weapons, and decreasing the cost of non-lance cavalry (except horse archers).
I was comparing Aspidophoroi to Hippokontistai, and Lonchophoroi to regular Hippeis. Comparing two kinds of skirmisher cavalry and two kinds of medium cavalry.

Quote Originally Posted by gamegeek2 View Post
When I played EB Online, before my Hamachi screwed up (finally got it running again but homework is getting the better of me these days) I favored the Sauromatae - the weakest of the steppe factions in terms of armour, etc. and probably not favored against other Steppe factions, but they enjoy some key advantages:

-Access to Bastarnae. While crap against missiles, your HAs will take the brunt of enemy missile attacks. Keep these away from missiles and they're golden shock infantry.
-Scythian Nobles - Very cost-efficient, superior lancers; better than Lonchophoroi and significantly cheaper
-Aorsi/Scythian Riders - much less expensive than Dahae and much more effective than Saka Riders (since overhand cav spears are so bad in EB). Much better than horse archers, since they pack a charge that will actually put the smackdown on wavering enemies or flanks/rear
Meh, not interested in a genuine steppe faction. The fun here is playing a (migrated) Hellenic-regional fusion. Just like playing Massilia with Greek and Celtic units.

Quote Originally Posted by Ca Putt View Post
I think he meant that both are the best things the KH factional barrack has against sauros, In which I agree. he just compared lonchophoroi to hippeis.

yep @ sauromatae are real good at getting effective light-medium troops rather fast without too many heavy troops availible.
Epirote, but yes.

Quote Originally Posted by A_Dane View Post
Gotta voice in again: There's no way, that I'd ever use toxotoi unless it was for a cheap garrison unit/I was in dire need. Especially not, when you got access to the very cheap skythian foot archers too. As others have said, why would a rich city/kingdom, use one of the worst archers in the game, when they have access to other cheap, and alot more efficient, archers?
Agreed.

Quote Originally Posted by athanaric View Post
Heavy Persians carry swords.
Spoiler Alert, click show to read: 
These have knives. (0.04)
Spears. (0.13)
Swords. (0.1)
Ah, I stand corrected. In which case the two are fairly comparable.