Minecraft

**Whacker** · 10-22-2010, 02:51

Originally Posted by TinCow

I think it's largely an aesthetic and accessibility issue. Minecraft is exceptionally easy to use. Dwarf Fortress is one of the most complex games ever made. Stonesense looks nice, but the game can't be played through it, so it doesn't have the same impact as viewing the world in Minecraft.

Minecraft is basically an extremely dumbed down version of Dwarf Fortress. I generally dislike dumbed down games because I find that fewer options means less fun. However, DF is one of the few games (along with MOO3 and perhaps Black & White) where the complexity level is so high that it actively diminishes entertainment. It's still a lot of fun, but it could be more fun if it was a bit more efficient. Minecraft is certainly not worthy of the amount of praise that is being heaped on it at the moment, but it's so easy to get into that it has a lot of appeal for a more pure, simple kind of fun. There's room in this world for both kinds of games.

It's almost too simple at this point. I found that it had a "wow" and "fun" factor that wore off after about 10 hours of near OCD-like playing. The reason I still like it and paid for it is because it has potential. When it gets opened up to modding and user content, it's just going to be nuts.

Speaking of mods, there's quite a few that have sprung up over the past few weeks now that people are figuring out how to dissect the game code. Thread is here: http://www.minecraftforum.net/viewto...p?f=25&t=47098

**Kekvit Irae** · 10-22-2010, 04:13

http://www.bay12forums.com/smf/index.php?topic=64473.0

Dwarf Fortress to Minecraft converter. Looks interesting, but that's like using a converter to transfer Fallout 2 maps into Fallout: Brotherhood of Steel. :P

**TinCow** · 10-22-2010, 14:01

Originally Posted by Whacker

It's almost too simple at this point. I found that it had a "wow" and "fun" factor that wore off after about 10 hours of near OCD-like playing. The reason I still like it and paid for it is because it has potential. When it gets opened up to modding and user content, it's just going to be nuts.

I completely agree with this post. I am not currently playing and am waiting for the Halloween update. MP interests me a great deal, but survival mode is far more fun. I'm hoping we'll get both at once with that update.

**Veho Nex** · 11-07-2010, 10:53

The server is live, after much debate since survival isnt planned to go live till beta.

Survival server: 216.52.148.208:25565 (UP: If you log in and can't see anything being worked on head north North-west.)

Creation server: 216.52.148.207:25565 (down due to issues with it taking system resources.)

**TinCow** · 11-08-2010, 15:07

Originally Posted by Veho Nex

survival isnt planned to go live till beta.

Where did you see that? The last I read was this post by Notch, which indicated he was currently working on it.

**Veho Nex** · 11-08-2010, 22:03

Originally Posted by TinCow

Where did you see that? The last I read was this post by Notch, which indicated he was currently working on it.

I was led to believe by the forum that when SMP finally did go live then the game would be switched to beta from its current alpha stage. I could be incorrect though.

**TinCow** · 11-08-2010, 22:28

Originally Posted by Veho Nex

I was led to believe by the forum that when SMP finally did go live then the game would be switched to beta from its current alpha stage. I could be incorrect though.

Hmm... well, I suppose that could be correct if the game switched to beta pretty soon. I've been holding off on more minecraft for a few weeks now because I want to start over once SMP is available.

**Whacker** · 11-09-2010, 18:03

Originally Posted by TinCow

Hmm... well, I suppose that could be correct if the game switched to beta pretty soon. I've been holding off on more minecraft for a few weeks now because I want to start over once SMP is available.

You're probably going to be waiting a while. Notch stated SMP is his priority, but I think he's realizing most people are in this for the single player and might be refocusing his work based on that. This is from what I've seen in the forums. The Halloween update was a real stinker too, he's still fixing bugs from that, and it lacks a lot of needed polish that should be there even in an alpha.

**Vladimir** · 12-28-2011, 00:42

Bump this badboy to spark interest!

**rajpoot** · 01-14-2012, 07:57

What developer asks fans to pirate his games?
Answer : Only Notch
This man deserves some sort of coolest person of the year award.

**Veho Nex** · 12-07-2010, 19:47

Survival server is up and running survival. If you want to join we have a vent as well. Come on introduce yourself to anyone who is playing, usually there are 1-2 people hanging out in the server.

Vent info:

75.102.34.131:9823

PW: AWP - if all caps wont let you in, try awp. I always forget if its in all caps or not.

Survival server: 216.52.148.208:25565

**rajpoot** · 04-25-2011, 13:47

Me and two of my other friends got this game around a month back and have been playing single player mostly or on our locally set up peaceful servers. Loving this game.
However, work progresses very slowly and since I updated to 1.501 I've been experiencing a lag :(
So what I wanted to ask is that is there any mod using which I can build maps and structures and then import them into the game....I've already tried a few including McEdit and Structure Planner but the former I found quite tedious and the latter, I couldn't even get to start....So all suggestions are appreciated.