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    Quote Originally Posted by Ludens View Post
    Not really. It just has a massive cash-flow and a large number of cities capable of producing elites. Also, the A.I.'s hatred of the player means that the Seleucids' rivals will often sign peace with them once they are at war with the player. So instead of being piled on by its neighbours, the Seleucids can throw stack after stack of elites at you. That is the Grey death.
    That happens to me in every game, where I'm near the Sele's xD And I'm on plain RTW.

    Havn't really tried others, but my plain RTW game, Hard is more than sufficient for me, as i usually get gangbanged by 2-3 AI nations by 260. (If i'm lucky, i can get to 255, but by then). In my Armenia games, I usually find my self fighting Sauros and Sele's quite early. The Ptollies make peace with the Sele's once we share a border, build up for a few years, then attacks me too. And usually, the Parthians march an army to that little town, above the mountains, on the western coast of the caspian, to attack me, even though we share no border, and they're fighting for their lives vs the seleucids.

    I usually give my self permission, to move those parthian armies, or use Auto-Win, as it's not realistic. (or call it me being a bad player/being lazy, whatever ya fancy, I just don't enjoy it, when some random nation, breaks off all trading relations, to get a city with 1500 inhabitans.. Never do it with nations i share a border with.)

    It goes totally ape shit on me, when i try VH, so moved down to H
    Last edited by A_Dane; 10-08-2010 at 18:42.

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    Basic movement, eh? I must confess I have been trying to extend the movement range of armies in this game. Seems ridiculous that a roman army can't move from, say, the river Po to Thapsus inside of a season, they could do it in a matter of weeks irl without straining themselves.

    Well, hope i can move to BI.exe after this campaign without too much trouble. As for waking up the seleukids... I have all or almost all of their best provinces. I've split them in two. They are broken as a world power, though the east part should be able to put up a fight vs. baktria, pahlava and/or the Saka, and the east, against Pontos. They have, however, nothing on me, and neither does King Kong, because IrakMesopotamia is insanely wealthy in this game, I have 16k people and almot 1k trade income in Armavir alone, and I am starting to get to some semi-advanced unit types.

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    Movement is more because of gameplay reasons and the fact that it cant be well represented in turn based games


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    How much harddrive space do you have? Personally, I've got more than I need, so i made a copy of the base RTW game, and installed EB on that, and kept a clean BI game too :)

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    More than enough HDD space. I just replaced my old trooper with a 160 GB 'Cuda. I could've taken a larger one but that might give my very old PC headaches.

    Alex is rather unstable, crashing and such, and my computer is barely able to run the mod as it is (the vanilla game runs quite smoothly though), is BI more stable?

    Anyway, I have about half of the territories I need to win already, but with all the ctd's it might be a long time before I actually finish. Hope my assassins can clear out the Pontic ruling class so I don't have to declare war on my ally. However, what with me pummeling the Arche Seleukeia into submission they've done quite well; they have the western half of the north coast of Asia Minor (Trapezous is mine and I don't think they ever took Sinope) up to the province just north of Pergamon as well as Byzantium, despite Makedonia doing alright themselves and puppeting Epeiros. The Arche is keeping an almost full stack army in Ankyra and they have strong garrisons in other cities there, but I've got Mesopotamia, so I can just throw a swarm of men in their general direction (which is what they should be doing to me, which is why this thread is even here) and since those men will have composite bows they are thoroughly penetrated. Though I will mop up the East first. If the game doesn't beat me yet by crashing all the time!

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    I find the effectiveness and aggressiveness of each faction varies from game to game.
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    I find that if you keep your border armies weak, the AI tends to throw just barely enough to have about a 60% autocalc win rate. I usually keep my armies at quarter stack at most when playing as the Seleucids. I haven't even taken Sidon in 15 odd years and the Ptolemies still aren't spamming stacks at me.

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    Rotten, did some pokeing around to find the right file for movement points. Its in the descr_character notepad file. Scroll down a small bit and 'default movement points' should be there with a value of 80. As I said in my other post a value of less than 150 or so (I settled on 140 for most games now and its fine) won't make the game unbalanced. It does allow you to bring reinforcements around a larger empire with greater ease.

    Main point to remember is that invading through italy and greece you can bypass the first few cities and attack the enemies rear without them being able to stop you. You should avoid doing this as its just plain impossible in real life. When used on the defensive and for assembling armies and transporting by boat though this setting is game-changing in how it allows you to assemble more varied armies and send units home for retraining and back within a reasonable timeframe.

    Also, remember this will only apply to newly created games and is not applied to older saves. The old saves still work but have the old movement. So your current game with half the victory conditions provinces will have to continue at slow speed.
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