In a world of lies, the truth is revolutionary.
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In a world of lies, the truth is revolutionary.
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Harlot IMOOriginally Posted by Louis VI the Fat
I have never spoken a truth, including now
There, but for the grace of God, goes John Bradford
My aim, then, was to whip the rebels, to humble their pride, to follow them to their inmost recesses, and make them fear and dread us. Fear is the beginning of wisdom.
I am tired and sick of war. Its glory is all moonshine. It is only those who have neither fired a shot nor heard the shrieks and groans of the wounded who cry aloud for blood, for vengeance, for desolation.
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Depends on the intention: to tell the truth to a parent about the most ugly new born child you ever see is mercy and social peace. To lie to some body in the process of dying but terrify by death is acceptable.
Lies are made to be believed.
Sometimes we believe lies because it is easier than to accept the reality. It makes life easier.
However, is to not telling the truth a lie? To hind an element you know about something, is it a lie?
Lie (as hypocrisy) is a social necessity in order to be able to live in society.
Those who can make you believe absurdities can make you commit atrocities. Voltaire.
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"You did, sarge", said Polly." You said you were in few last stands."
"Yeah, lad. But I was holding the metal"
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Not so sure about that, I think it can have the purpose to insult someones intelligence, to humiliate. If you have to live the lie you become part of it, I think that's the real purpose of propaganda, to make you feel powerless.
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No lies are not to make people feel powerless sometimes a lie can empower people whereas the truth may actually rob them of power.
Therefore I would say lies are for control pure and simple but the control can vary from harmful to beneficial control.
It can be so the person telling the lie can control a delicate social situation or it can be so they can actually control another person.
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Was thinking about poor Neda, supposedly shot by foreign western agensts according to the beards. Who actually believes that, nobody does.
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After two beers, there is very little I would not do a fiver, so yes I immediately plead guilty to being a cheap slut. But did you discover the paradox in my post? It has puzzled Greek philosophy for millenia now. At least since Epimenides, who insipred me: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Epimenides_paradox
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Yes I'm well aware of the paradox. Me and every first year philosophy student who tries to sound deep so he can get laid.
I'm begging to think you've gotten married. Losing your edge.
But I can't quit you
There, but for the grace of God, goes John Bradford
My aim, then, was to whip the rebels, to humble their pride, to follow them to their inmost recesses, and make them fear and dread us. Fear is the beginning of wisdom.
I am tired and sick of war. Its glory is all moonshine. It is only those who have neither fired a shot nor heard the shrieks and groans of the wounded who cry aloud for blood, for vengeance, for desolation.
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Yes well I may have lost my edge, but I'm not the one sleeping around with fat Poles.
None of the above is a lie.
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I stand corrected
Touche good sir
Touche indeed
There, but for the grace of God, goes John Bradford
My aim, then, was to whip the rebels, to humble their pride, to follow them to their inmost recesses, and make them fear and dread us. Fear is the beginning of wisdom.
I am tired and sick of war. Its glory is all moonshine. It is only those who have neither fired a shot nor heard the shrieks and groans of the wounded who cry aloud for blood, for vengeance, for desolation.
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There's no paradox if you lied in that post. See for that statement to be false all that is necessary is for you to have uttered truth once, not necessarily in that post.
Me, I prefer the axiom of choice.
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