Israel jails organiser of peaceful protests

**Beskar** · 10-16-2010, 12:51

Yes, I am wrong, because Spain and Belguim are obviously war zones with many deaths and casualties each day, with French-speaking Belguim in a virtual ghetto and home to the French flotilla incident, where French navy was trying to pass the Flemish blockage 'peacefully'. The issues in Belgium and Spain is pretty much people tuttering rather loudly with them and modern day Ireland being a very significant improvement for both the Israelis and the Palestinians.

The rather 'abstract lines on a map' is the very issue. Because without those lines, Israeli security forces can just stamp out the terrorism in their own backyard, without having to leave them roam free, because their backyard is technically owned by some one else.

**Rhyfelwyr** · 10-16-2010, 18:00

Originally Posted by Beskar

Yes, I am wrong, because Spain and Belguim are obviously war zones with many deaths and casualties each day, with French-speaking Belguim in a virtual ghetto and home to the French flotilla incident, where French navy was trying to pass the Flemish blockage 'peacefully'. The issues in Belgium and Spain is pretty much people tuttering rather loudly with them and modern day Ireland being a very significant improvement for both the Israelis and the Palestinians.

That is more to do with the fact that Belgium in in the heart of the developed world. Adding the political instability that comes with a system like Belgium's would certainly translate into conflict in the Middle-East.

**Furunculus** · 10-17-2010, 20:41

^ wot he said ^

**gaelic cowboy** · 10-18-2010, 01:58

I don't understand this at all from a demographic or strategic point of view Israel does not have the numbers to sustain all these settlements

Some of the settlers are so religious they wont serve in the army they expect to protect them on the very same settlements.

**Meneldil** · 10-18-2010, 06:03

Considering that all multinational states are encountering harsher and harsher difficulties as time goes, I don't see how that would work in the middle-east.

Most provinces in Spain are being bitch to eachothers. You even have regional racism on the rise. Same in Belgium, where some people realistically think they country won't last much longer. Somehow, you want to take this model, that's not working in western Europe, for some of the most democratic and wealthy countries, a impose it onto backwater, hatred-filled Palestine/Israel? Good luck with that.

**Hax** · 10-18-2010, 20:48

I agree with Meneldil. I don't think a single state solution would work. A confederacy-ish state might work for some time, but unless the military arm of Hamas ceases the rocket attacks or is removed entirely and willing to talk with Israel, things like that aren't going to work at all.