Why can't Europe defend itself?

**Vuk** · 10-13-2010, 23:00

Originally Posted by Furunculus

because, militarily, it is a wreck.

never again will russia have the ability to pose an existential (conventional) threat to europe, and there would be no point nuking it either because it has not the resources to consolidate its victory, presupposing it survived a second strike itself.

russia can bully its little neighbours, but that is it.

lol, I think that you are underestimating them, and the fact that they would most likely have China as an ally. They do not even have to occupy most of the countries as long as they get they own regimes in power, and use the resources of the country to suppress itself.

**Furunculus** · 10-14-2010, 09:51

Originally Posted by Just Vuk Again

lol, I think that you are underestimating them, and the fact that they would most likely have China as an ally. They do not even have to occupy most of the countries as long as they get they own regimes in power, and use the resources of the country to suppress itself.

lol, i think i'm not.

the average life expectancy of russian men is close to 30 years less than of an average EU citizen, mostly due to alcohol.

most of their army is completely immobile, hasn't trained properly in years, nor too had a proper maintenance schedule.

they're only just starting to complete equipment programs that were supposed to be delivered in the late 80's, now nearly a (human) generation out of date.

their population will decline to less than that of germany within the next (human) generation.

their economy is propped up on petro-chemical exports, and flogging off old soviet era kit.

no, i am not underestimating russia, they are still a great power, but........................ they are surrounded by other great powers, and represent no existential threat to europe any more, and never will again short of pressing every single big-red-button they have left, but why would they do it when Britain and France have a guaranteed second strike?

**rory_20_uk** · 10-14-2010, 10:34

China as an Ally? Are you INSANE? What is in it for China, seeing all their markets get wiped out and loosing a sorce of a lot of their high tech imports?

Russia using the resources to suppress the countries... Sounds slightly familiar and didn't work then either.

It reads like the Iraqi war planners who were going to throw the 1990 coalition back into the sea as they were living on Cloud Cuckoo Land.

**Furunculus** · 10-14-2010, 10:46

Originally Posted by rory_20_uk

China as an Ally? Are you INSANE? What is in it for China, seeing all their markets get wiped out and loosing a sorce of a lot of their high tech imports?

Russia using the resources to suppress the countries... Sounds slightly familiar and didn't work then either.

It reads like the Iraqi war planners who were going to throw the 1990 coalition back into the sea as they were living on Cloud Cuckoo Land.

agreed, by the time russia had moment to pause from its 'glorious' invasion of western europe it would find china occupying eastern siberia and all those glorious mineral deposits.

**a completely inoffensive name** · 10-14-2010, 10:50

Everyone hates America and is collaborating to take us down. Europe is too socialist to fight back against the evil tide. That's why we need our bases everywhere. It's just a fact. If you disagree then go live in Russia and China and tell me they are not working with the terrorists at dismantling the freedom we built and shipped to the rest of the world in WW2.

**Sarmatian** · 10-14-2010, 13:41

Originally Posted by Furunculus

lol, i think i'm not.

the average life expectancy of russian men is close to 30 years less than of an average EU citizen, mostly due to alcohol.

15 years compared to UK.

**Slyspy** · 10-14-2010, 19:48

Originally Posted by Sarmatian

15 years compared to UK.

Take the Scots out of the equation and the difference looks much better for the remainder of the UK.

**gaelic cowboy** · 10-14-2010, 20:10

Originally Posted by Slyspy

Take the Scots out of the equation and the difference looks much better for the remainder of the UK.

Yea Rhy stop eating those deep fried mars bars yer letting the side down

**Devastatin Dave** · 10-21-2010, 22:27

Answer: because the Euros are a bunch of pussies. Luckily for you the muslims are taking over and your pussification will be demenished. Praise Allah for cleaning up pussies...

**Husar** · 10-21-2010, 23:46

Originally Posted by Devastatin Dave

Answer: because the Euros are a bunch of pussies. Luckily for you the muslims are taking over and your pussification will be demenished. Praise Allah for cleaning up pussies...

Our President has already said there is no place for islamic machos in Germany, stay tuned as we turn them into pussies, too!
There's no denying that deep inside every human being just wants to be a pussy, don't resist it Dave, join us!