Oh, we can.
However, we are not as, how to put it? "Eager" - to get into conflicts.
China has a lot of ground to cover before they reach us.
Russia can not tackle us.
Arabs... You got to be joking?
Re: Why can't Europe defend itself?
Oh, we can.
However, we are not as, how to put it? "Eager" - to get into conflicts.
China has a lot of ground to cover before they reach us.
Russia can not tackle us.
Arabs... You got to be joking?
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Re: Why can't Europe defend itself?
Hey now, we've spent upwards of two trillion in the last nine years taking it to the Arabs. And ... uh ... look at how well that's turned out!Originally Posted by Shibumi
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Re: Why can't Europe defend itself?
And look at England in Afghanistan in the 1800's. Well over a 100 years prior and even then the English, the most powerful nation in the world got whoop by them. Mongols got crushed by the Egyptians in 1260's.
Don't underestimate them.
How can you prove Russia won't? Overran you guys (part of Europe anyhow) once before....
Re: Why can't Europe defend itself?
You mean "Great Britain".
In any case - the Afgans didn't "whoop" the Empire, they just faught it to exhaustion. Or, more to the point, they did what they are doing to America now.
Can we defend ourselves?
Yes, but we dod not have long-range Force projection, the whole of Europe has three Aircraft Carriers between all its nations. How many does the US have these days? 12?
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Re: Why can't Europe defend itself?
More than once, actually, but since Russian GDP is waaaay smaller than EU's, they really can't do it, they'd get spanked. And they have no reason to. Since they can't and they don't want to, there is no real reason to afraid, is there?
China, kind of similar to Russia.
Arabs, now that is a joke...
Re: Why can't Europe defend itself?
Wouldn't you rather say "The United Kingdom"? I'm feeling sorry for all the soldiers from Man being left out of it all.You mean "Great Britain".
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Re: Why can't Europe defend itself?
That's just how it is, we're the "United Kingdom of Great Britain and Northern Ireland". The Manx are not part of the UK, they are a crown dependency, they have their own government, with the Queen as Head of State, although they still have have British citizenship.
At the end of the day politics is just trash compared to the Gospel.
Re: Why can't Europe defend itself?
That sounds like a sweet deal. How do I go about applying to be a "crown dependecy"?
Re: Why can't Europe defend itself?
"Defend" is different to invading / pissing off the locals.
I agree that Europe has become complacent in its defence and has a very poor organisation in terms of strengths and duplication.
America uses its defence policy as part of it's Pork Barrel orders to placate areas whose industries are failing.
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Re: Why can't Europe defend itself?
Europe has gonna weak... all they do is condemning fights anywhere... maybe an alien invasion will teach them a lesson or two...
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Re: Why can't Europe defend itself?
We can just think of a better use for that 3 trillion dollars...
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Re: Why can't Europe defend itself?
“maybe an alien invasion will teach them a lesson or two...” Or maybe the 1,357,000 names written in the 36,785 towns and villages' Monuments from the WW1 and the 238,000 from the WW2 taught (Europe) France a lesson or two as to stop to fight each other and to stop to attack others.
So we learned our lessons: War is bad.
As foreign invasion, I am the first generation that didn’t seen one, thanks you. I have still time, but hopefully it won’t happened.
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Re: Why can't Europe defend itself?
Oh boy.
Re: Why can't Europe defend itself?
They can't afford it; they spend all their money on firefighters.
Re: Why can't Europe defend itself?
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Re: Why can't Europe defend itself?
Nice quip Sasaki-san.
My answer would be that Europe chooses to defend themselves with a network of alliances and economic ties along with a good deal of "jaw-jaw."
Since, aside from the Balkans in the immediate aftermath of the Cold War, there hasn't been a lot of harm done to the Europeans, it is pretty hard to say they've got it wrong.
Should NATO be disbanded there would need to be a shift in the approach, but right now it works well.
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