Forget the birthers: Here come the DNAers

[Lemur]

From ScienceBlogs (I considered posting this in the semi-permanent Obama thread, but it's just too silly for that discussion). What do Orgahs think? Will this catch on with the fringe? I'm curious to see if the creationists can kindle to this, given that they do not believe in evolution, hence most of modern biology, including DNA. Or would that little bit of cognitive dissonance even slow them down? I'm loving the idea that Obama is secretly Malcolm X's love child. That's comedy gold right there.

And no, the birther/DNAer movement has nothing to do with race. Nope. Nothing at all.

Forget the Birthers; Here Come the DNAers

Someone sent me a link to this article on the website of something called the Western Center for Journalism. I was hardly surprised, after I read the article, to find out that this organization was founded by Joseph Farah. They're going beyond even birtherism and demanding Obama's DNA:

This includes the determination of his actual identity, which requires genetic analysis. I started my investigation and analysis by deeming nearly every assertion as open to question, including the claimed identity of Mr. Obama's parents. A certificate that a child was born to Stanley Ann Dunham and Barack Hussein Obama in Honolulu on 4 August 1961 might be true; but, assuming it's true, it does not necessarily follow that Mr. Obama is that child. Whether he is or not requires genetic analysis.

Ooh, so who might he be? One of the commenters provides the possibilities:

Another possibility is that Frank Marshall Davis is the father, but, being a communist, that would have hindered Barry's chances in life. Likewise if his father was, in fact, Malcolm X (and his mother in actuality his maternal grandmother). Other posters on this subject have noted Barry's likeness to the latter rather than to father-of-convenience Obama Sr. (who, recall, never lived with Stanley Ann; plus there is no real record of their marriage).

[Seamus Fermanagh]

From ScienceBlogs (I considered posting this in the semi-permanent Obama thread, but it's just too silly for that discussion). What do Orgahs think? Will this catch on with the fringe? I'm curious to see if the creationists can kindle to this, given that they do not believe in evolution, hence most of modern biology, including DNA. Or would that little bit of cognitive dissonance even slow them down? I'm loving the idea that Obama is secretly Malcolm X's love child. That's comedy gold right there.

And no, the birther/DNAer movement has nothing to do with race. Nope. Nothing at all.

Forget the Birthers; Here Come the DNAers

Someone sent me a link to this article on the website of something called the Western Center for Journalism. I was hardly surprised, after I read the article, to find out that this organization was founded by Joseph Farah. They're going beyond even birtherism and demanding Obama's DNA:

This includes the determination of his actual identity, which requires genetic analysis. I started my investigation and analysis by deeming nearly every assertion as open to question, including the claimed identity of Mr. Obama's parents. A certificate that a child was born to Stanley Ann Dunham and Barack Hussein Obama in Honolulu on 4 August 1961 might be true; but, assuming it's true, it does not necessarily follow that Mr. Obama is that child. Whether he is or not requires genetic analysis.

Ooh, so who might he be? One of the commenters provides the possibilities:

Another possibility is that Frank Marshall Davis is the father, but, being a communist, that would have hindered Barry's chances in life. Likewise if his father was, in fact, Malcolm X (and his mother in actuality his maternal grandmother). Other posters on this subject have noted Barry's likeness to the latter rather than to father-of-convenience Obama Sr. (who, recall, never lived with Stanley Ann; plus there is no real record of their marriage).

So remember kiddies, if you want your child to grow up to be President, be sure to have an independent watchdog group film every moment of their existence from conception onward.

[Rhyfelwyr]

Obama was created in a test tube using DNA from the Shroud of Turin when the Jesuits cut a deal with the Eastern block to put their own socialist puppet in Washington to be hailed as the second coming.

If you think about it, there's a good chance Jesus was kind of black, and Obama is also kind of black, plus we know nothing about his birth except that he was born in Kenya, which borders Ethiopia where they claim descent from Solomon and keep the ark of the covenant, so really it makes perfect sense.

[PanzerJaeger]

Seeing illusory racist motivations in seemingly every attack on the current president has become a bit of a nutty conspiracy movement in and of itself.

[Cute Wolf]

not to mention he could be swapped when he lived in Jakarta, there is sizeable community of african descendants in menteng.

[Hosakawa Tito]

He's the Manchurian Candidate, sired by Mao to destroy the US.

[Xiahou]

You'd think if they were going to make a genetically engineered super-communist to be president, they'd make one thats more competent than Obama.

[jabarto]

Seeing illusory racist motivations in seemingly every attack on the current president has become a bit of a nutty conspiracy movement in and of itself.

Oh, hey, look at this. It's PanzerJaeger denying the existence of things that contradict his political philosophy. Everyone raise your hands if you've seen him do this before.

o/

[Ironside]

Interesting that for the DNAers to even hold water, they must sidestep the whole American dream idea, since they're suggesting that ancestry should play a large part of the choise of president.

[Hosakawa Tito]

Ya mean like affirmative action?

[Beskar]

Oh, hey, look at this. It's PanzerJaeger denying the existence of things that contradict his political philosophy. Everyone raise your hands if you've seen him do this before.

o/

I don't remember all these movements when it was a White president, but since a guy with a little more darker skin gets involved.... "ZOMG HE ISN'T A REAL AMERICAN!"

Since the government would have obviously done the necessary checks in the first place, it is plainly obvious to anyone with an IQ above 30 that he is an American.

[gaelic cowboy]

The whole you cant be President unless your born there thing is silly anyway if your a citizen you should be allowed to stand for election even if your name is Dr Evil

[jabarto]

I don't remember all these movements when it was a White president, but since a guy with a little more darker skin gets involved.... "ZOMG HE ISN'T A REAL AMERICAN!"

Since the government would have obviously done the necessary checks in the first place, it is plainly obvious to anyone with an IQ above 30 that he is an American.

There were a lot of things that didn't happen during the Bush administration. Remember how, when he was in office, the right always said that we should just respect and support the president even if we don't agree with him? And the moment Obama stepped in, they suddenly began clawing through hell and high water to make him fail at everything he tried?

More on topic, it's pretty much a forgone conclusion that race has a large part in not only this, but the entire right-wing ideology. Just take a look at terms like "welfare queen" and pay attention to the demographic to which it's most often applied.

[PanzerJaeger]

I don't remember all these movements when it was a White president

There were all kinds of crazy movements during the Bush Administration. Remember the 9/11 Truthers? Claiming the president colluded with foreign terrorists to attack his own country in order to start a war for personal profit is a hell of a lot worse than claiming the president (who does have a rather unusual background) was not born in America.

More on topic, it's pretty much a forgone conclusion that race has a large part in not only this, but the entire right-wing ideology. Just take a look at terms like "welfare queen" and pay attention to the demographic to which it's most often applied.

To people on welfare?

That said, anyone who doesn't see the racial undertones of bitherism/DNAism has a highly selective take on reality.

If a Left leaning white president was elected with the same background, I'd wager we would see similar groups pop up. Many Americans put a lot of stock in lineage (which is ironic), and this is a natural reaction to a politician with an obscure background. These people's political ideology dictates that he is not to be liked, and his background is a convenient excuse - just like 9/11 was a convenient excuse for many lefties to entertain fantasies of sabotage.

[Ronin]

Seeing illusory racist motivations in seemingly every attack on the current president has become a bit of a nutty conspiracy movement in and of itself.

yes......highly illusory in this case... :P