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    Voluntary Suspension Voluntary Suspension Philippus Flavius Homovallumus's Avatar
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    Quote Originally Posted by Fragony View Post
    They still came up with the greatest mathematic invention ever, the number zero, and in consequence algorithms. To give the arabs no credit at all.. Assyrians and Sumerians were also conquerors they didn't invent it, they were pretty developed already.
    Quote Originally Posted by Tellos Athenaios View Post
    No, the number zero comes from Indians (or at least first well known use of it). And you can have algorithms without zero. However 0 and 1 are exceedingly important in unifying frameworks in mathematics.

    But Rhyfelwyr is right: none of these inventions have the remotest bearing on the cultural relevance/superiority of the various Arab nations today.
    According to wiki zero is first mentioned by a Persian about 950 AD *shrug*. As you say though, it has no bearing today.

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    How else would you explain Hitler and a good part of the Nazi party holding such views? Surely they formed their opinions that this was a “good” thing to do in the same way as you and I have arrived at the contrary position –through experience and reflection based on a framework of values.
    Values which assumed a subsection of humanity was worthless, that was wrong, and I think it's a judgment you can make absolutely.

    Of course I personally "accept morality" and naturally concur with the intended sense of your exposes. However, I recognise that to those with opinions as strongly held as my own, the truth of their derived beliefs is as great to them as mine is to me.
    This to me sounds like you not being willing to stick to your guns, rather than a coherent philosophical position. At the end of the day you can't call me a "cultural chauvanist" because I dissagree with pointless ritual murder.
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    According to wiki zero is first mentioned by a Persian about 950 AD *shrug*. As you say though, it has no bearing today.
    Who, al-Khwarizmi? Yeah, Persian. And Muslim, at that.

    I mean, Persian, Arab, Berber, I don't care. It has no bearing today, certainly, but then there are also people who say that "the Islamic golden age did not exist, it were all non-Muslims who did all the work", which is about as bad as saying that only Muslims did anything.
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