Star Wars: Fall of the Order [Concluded]

[Ignoramus]

Vote: Sasaki

I'm more convinced that Sasaki could have a Sith role. It was all too easy for him to claim to have taken out Beskar, and now he's claiming that he has the ability to protect too. If he can protect himself, then why come out an take the credit for knocking off Beskar - there's no need.

[Ibn-Khaldun]

Vote: Yaropolk

[Ironside]

Hrmm... probably a good idea to protect pevergreen, if he's going to keep being attacked.

Vote: Ironside

Has he posted?

Nope...

I mean yes, he just posted.

Never been good at the early game so it usually ends up with abstain or bandwagon votes.

I don't believe his claims. The fact that he ignores me strengthens this suspicion. Call it a major gut feeling. Sasaki would never claim this early, unless he is guilty as sin.

Getting the info for the vigi kill that early is a bit odd. There's either a day investigative power in play, a lucky vig kill or that ATPG or the sith lord screwed up (Beskar being inactive makes it hard for him to screw up). We can scrap a sith lord accident based on that Sasaki haven't named the sith lord, which he would know the name of in that case.

A very guilty Sith lord Sasaki killing off his own apprentice is a bit brutal though, but in a easy recruitment game (like your old one especially) not entirely stupid. ATPG do indirectly mention that this game won't be ending before the endgame, so automatic recruitment is in somehow. Would make the Sith lord having 2 kills a night, while the apprentice having one. Consistant with night actions, but only with no new apprentice. That makes the killing of your own apprentice big downside.

No idea if a day investigative power exist, but it sounds odd.

Lucky vid kill indicates a third or more factions, which ATPG has hinted at (can't find it so I might remember wrong though) and the crazy assassin could be a sign of. Sasaki belonging to this would be my guess.

Might as well put some weight behind this for now.
Vote: Sasaki

[Kagemusha]

Lets put some pressure to mr.Kojiro. FOS those who are joining the Yaropolk bandwagon, while none of the voters including Csargo havent given any reason for voting Yaropolk. Unvote and Vote: Sasaki

[pevergreen]

I don't like the way Sasaki has responded to what I've said to him.

[Sprig]

I am still not satisfied with vote: ignoramus, when he starts acting town-like I might have a change of heart.

[Raskolnikov]

May I introduce you to the cases against God Emperor and ByzantineKnight?





->random vote from khaazar on cecilXIX

https://forums.totalwar.org/vb/showt...post2053219844

-> first post of God Emperor: BW on CecilXIX

https://forums.totalwar.org/vb/showt...post2053219856

-> first vote from BK: vote on God Emperor (cover vote?)

https://forums.totalwar.org/vb/showt...post2053219974

-> second vote of BK: BW on my previous self (important is BW, not self)

https://forums.totalwar.org/vb/showt...post2053220170

-> Jedi Initiate Double A sharing his thoughts about siths.

https://forums.totalwar.org/vb/showt...post2053220740

-> immediate reaction from BK:

https://forums.totalwar.org/vb/showt...post2053220757

-> immediate reaction from God Emperor:

https://forums.totalwar.org/vb/showt...post2053220771

-> Perfect scum post from BK, I love the last sentence in particular:

https://forums.totalwar.org/vb/showt...post2053220863

BK finally voted Cute Wolf, though he was under huge pressure. It was prolly judicious choice not to BW again.


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tl; dr: huge FOS on God Emperor and ByzantineKnight.

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Meanwhile, vote: pevergreen

[Khazaar]

I think any sort of public information is useful for town, even when the sith gain information too. I presume the sith are well informed already, or have spies so duels aren´t the worst thing that can happen. Jedies can always choose to not kill in a duel.

Random VOTE: Jooray

[pevergreen]

tl; dr: huge FOS on God Emperor and ByzantineKnight.

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Meanwhile, vote: pevergreen

Right, so you're voting for the guy that is getting attacked by Sith?

How silly are you trying to be?

[Renata]

vote: soup

Sky high signal to noise ratio and said something blatantly scummy like "oh that's bad" after two people turned up dead last night.

[Diamondeye]

No, he hasn't. Neither has Cecil XIX, CDF, Jolt, Niklas, split, or wideyed.

Keeping a list of easy BW targets?
Also; I spoke to Niklas in private; He only ever indicated interest in this game and never meant to sign up, as he's busy at the moment. I think he's asked ATPG to be replaced...

Vote: Diamondeye

He was the fastest to blame anyone who doing a simple lazy bandwagon. I wonder what is his motivation...

Delayed OMGUS? Being the first to accuse many people makes you enemies. That's poor mafia play if you're scum.

Odd - if the Sith really wanted pever dead, why not attack him together? Are they barred from doubling up for a night kill? I am happy pever is alive, but the fact he isn't dead is intriguing.

Going to look at tallies for now to make a more informed vote.

Hmm... It seems to be consensus that the sith have already restored their number to two - in effect before they sent in nightkills? The two attackers strike me very much as the same person, to be honest, but I'll do a rundown of the writeup later, like I did last round...

Right, so you're voting for the guy that is getting attacked by Sith?

How silly are you trying to be?

While I think pever's tone is too sharp, he's right. He's the closest we get to a confirmed innocent at the moment. Voting him isn't smart, Raskolnikov. I suggest you follow up on your own words and join me in voting: ByzantineKnight.

Also, on the Yaropolk-Sasaki bandwagons; I don't want Sasaki dead. If it comes down to these two, you can count my vote as being on Yaropolk by the end of the day.

[slysnake]

ARGH!!! just too late.

No time to play these last two days, but I would have voted Sasaki.
He might claim to have killed the Sith, but I believe he is lying. And before you think you have ferreted out the killer of your partner, Sasaki, you haven't

Edit: oops.. sorry about posting in da locked thread (see TinCow's reply for reference)

I second your concern, Sigurd, so this round: vote: Sasaki



BTW: Sorry for the messed up quotation, Im still a noob at forum posting :)

[Death is yonder]

Sounds plausible, little reason Sasaki would come out so early in the game with such a claim.

Claiming Vig: A fairly powerful one at that to have taken out a sith but then again Beskar wasn't around and maybe couldn't defend himself or something else like pever seemed to do.

Claims protection ability, and SELF protection to boot, pretty confident in it too.

I don't see much reason for Sasaki to be coming out this early suggesting that he's a pretty darned powerful character unless he's lying/having fun/free-loading credibility.

Vote: Sasaki

[pevergreen]

Sounds plausible, little reason Sasaki would come out so early in the game with such a claim.

Claiming Vig: A fairly powerful one at that to have taken out a sith but then again Beskar wasn't around and maybe couldn't defend himself or something else like pever seemed to do.

Claims protection ability, and SELF protection to boot, pretty confident in it too.

I don't see much reason for Sasaki to be coming out this early suggesting that he's a pretty darned powerful character unless he's lying/having fun/free-loading credibility.

Vote: Sasaki

The abilities are there, but yeah.

Hmm... It seems to be consensus that the sith have already restored their number to two - in effect before they sent in nightkills? The two attackers strike me very much as the same person, to be honest, but I'll do a rundown of the writeup later, like I did last round...
While I think pever's tone is too sharp, he's right. He's the closest we get to a confirmed innocent at the moment. Voting him isn't smart, Raskolnikov. I suggest you follow up on your own words and join me in voting: ByzantineKnight.

In the last game, the Sith went straight back to 2 IIRC. No wait time or anything. It was random as well I think.
Yes, my tone was a bit sharp. I apologise. DE is correct though.

[Diana Abnoba]

Vote: Sasaki sorry my friend, but you have some explaining to do.

[johnhughthom]

Vote: sprig

Double A is not disruptive. Annoying? Yes.

[Sasaki Kojiro]

fos:joooray

Don't like the sound of you "following the hunch of romanic".

@votes: I am a town power role. Why do you think otherwise merely because you cannot explain my actions? There is need for secrecy and informational warfare in this game.

The reasons for voting yaropolk were from last round, he posted a bandwagon vote with muddled and contradictory reasoning.

[pevergreen]

fos:joooray

Don't like the sound of you "following the hunch of romanic".

@votes: I am a town power role. Why do you think otherwise merely because you cannot explain my actions? There is need for secrecy and informational warfare in this game.

The reasons for voting yaropolk were from last round, he posted a bandwagon vote with muddled and contradictory reasoning.

You're acting like yourself, which is inherently not pro town.

I still have no reason to trust you, Mr. Wolf...

[Frozen In Ice]

I propose that we get Yaropolk and Sasaki into a duel. That way if Sasaki is really as almighty as he says he is, then he should win in a landside. I still find it likely that he is pro-town power role, but he is much less useful to the town if we don't trust him; this plan should fix our preceptions.

[Rebel Jeb]

Sasaki isn't a sith...

Vote: Joooray

He's acting too Joorayish.

[God Emperor]

Vote: Sasaki

I'm more convinced that Sasaki could have a Sith role. It was all too easy for him to claim to have taken out Beskar, and now he's claiming that he has the ability to protect too. If he can protect himself, then why come out an take the credit for knocking off Beskar - there's no need.

Why would it be an easy claim for Sasaki? If he claimed a kill that he did not do himself, then ofc he would be proven wrong, as the real killer would step forward, in public or to some in private = you believe he killed his own mafia buddy ? imo it is a reasoning that makes no sense
Vote: Ignoramus

Vote: Sasaki sorry my friend, but you have some explaining to do.

What exactly is it he needs to explain?


@ Romanic

No I don't think duels is a good idea. The strongest of the two would come out as the victor, and the write up would tell us if there was power roles involved. but what more ? Imo we should avoid duels, as they seem to give the mafia more useful information than the town.

@ Raskolnikov

I am not sure if you want a reply on your case. At leaste I don't know how to reply to it because I don't see the case really. But it surprises me you would put myself and Byzantineknight down as scumbuddies without voting for neither of us. Does this mean your case was only for show and that you wish to appear scum hunter?

[Csargo]

Lets put some pressure to mr.Kojiro. FOS those who are joining the Yaropolk bandwagon, while none of the voters including Csargo havent given any reason for voting Yaropolk. Unvote and Vote: Sasaki

I gave my reason yesterday.

[Andres]

I don't believe his claims. The fact that he ignores me strengthens this suspicion. Call it a major gut feeling. Sasaki would never claim this early, unless he is guilty as sin.
vote: Sasaki

Ignoring an accusation is a scumtell indeed. Apart from that, I don't really understand the case against Sasaki. Then again, TinCow eats strawberry yoghurt, strawberries are red, Darth Maul has a red skin, ergo TinCow is guilty.

Vote : TinCow

[Kagemusha]

I gave my reason yesterday.

Maybe you would then like to share those thoughts again, or even tell me the number of the page where those could be found.

[Andres]

Maybe you would then like to share those thoughts again, or even tell me the number of the page where those could be found.

He could give you the number of the page, but if he uses a different post/page view ratio, then you'll still be clueless. Better to ask for the number of the post.

Or maybe you are deliberately asking for the number of the page, so that you can post again and say that he's playing games and then vote him and get a bandwagon rolling.

Scumbag! Leave Csar alone! He's mine!

Unvote : TinCow ; Vote : Kagemusha

DIE, SITH, DIE!!!

[Csargo]

Maybe you would then like to share those thoughts again, or even tell me the number of the page where those could be found.

I don't know what page it was on, but Sasaki summed it up well:

The reasons for voting yaropolk were from last round, he posted a bandwagon vote with muddled and contradictory reasoning.

To the people voting Sasaki I have to ask. Have you ever played a game with him? srsly u guise

[Csargo]

He could give you the number of the page, but if he uses a different post/page view ratio, then you'll still be clueless. Better to ask for the number of the post.

Or maybe you are deliberately asking for the number of the page, so that you can post again and say that he's playing games and then vote him and get a bandwagon rolling.

Scumbag! Leave Csar alone! He's mine!

Unvote : TinCow ; Vote : Kagemusha

DIE, SITH, DIE!!!

[Kagemusha]

He could give you the number of the page, but if he uses a different post/page view ratio, then you'll still be clueless. Better to ask for the number of the post.

Or maybe you are deliberately asking for the number of the page, so that you can post again and say that he's playing games and then vote him and get a bandwagon rolling.

Scumbag! Leave Csar alone! He's mine!

Unvote : TinCow ; Vote : Kagemusha

DIE, SITH, DIE!!!

And where were you lurking last night,slacking off while you were supposed to be tormenting Csargo? Bad Andres!

[Andres]

And where were you lurking last night,slacking off while you were supposed to be tormenting Csargo? Bad Andres!

I was changing diapers and preparing milk for my cruel master.

[Askthepizzaguy]

Dont forget, you can send in night actions now, to keep the game moving faster. It reduces nighttime from 48 to 24 hours. Surely everyone wants that....