Star Wars: Fall of the Order [Concluded]

[ULC]

So we have agreed, no tie, I die? Can we please get these proceedings over? You can all call me a terrible townie afterward, I've had my fun in just these last few pages. I've stated my case, my opinions, and the reasons for what I am doing - all of you are simply ignoring it, so there is no reasoning with any of you.

[Chaotix]

Meh. You're not a joker, so either you're a Sith who wants to save his Sith Master or a townie who wants to save someone who he believes is a stronger role. Or, you have Force Breath and are screwing with us.

Whatever the case, you won't last much longer.

[Ignoramus]

Master Sky has been informed.

[Nightbringer]

look if you want me dead you'll need to vig me because I have force breath. Chances are I'll die the next night unless the sith just suck hardcore

I'm sorry but this post just strikes me as so scummy that I must unvote: vote:dcmort93

This post is jumping to defend himself from the mere suggestion that he is scum, while at the same time claiming votes against him will not work, AND revealing himself as a power role. Either this was a very very silly post on his part, or he is absolute sith scum.

He has absolutely no reason to need to make this reveal, he is hardly being voted for and was mearly mentioned as a possible candidate for tomorrow.

Plus, he has been posting pond scum all night.

Ok so first off Vote Abstain I see no point in choosing a distinct canidate yet
secondly what is the case against me exactly and is it still valid

voting abstain? why would he do this, unless he is just waiting to see what will make him look better. plus he is already preoccupied with people suspecting him, this amount of paranoia would be unwarrented for a mere town role.

[ULC]

Meh. You're not a joker, so either you're a Sith who wants to save his Sith Master or a townie who wants to save someone who he believes is a stronger role. Or, you have Force Breath and are screwing with us.

Whatever the case, you won't last much longer.

I'm not Sith, that will be confirmed if I do die, and I do believe Iggy has an IMPORTANT role, from what I can gather of his behavior - whether it is outright better then mine, I have no clue. All I know, is that I am innocent, I'd prefer to live, prefer Iggy to die, and prefer it if a duel was not conducted. If the town attempts to enforce a duel, I will go out of my way to insure that there is no duel, because I believe doing so is detrimental to the town, something that has been echoed REPEATEDLY, and not just by me.

Seriously people, do you just put me on ignore and then vote me based on what everyone else says?

[pevergreen]

I'm not Sith, that will be confirmed if I do die, and I do believe Iggy has an IMPORTANT role, from what I can gather of his behavior - whether it is outright better then mine, I have no clue. All I know, is that I am innocent, I'd prefer to live, prefer Iggy to die, and prefer it if a duel was not conducted. If the town attempts to enforce a duel, I will go out of my way to insure that there is no duel, because I believe doing so is detrimental to the town, something that has been echoed REPEATEDLY, and not just by me.

Seriously people, do you just put me on ignore and then vote me based on what everyone else says?

Hes given me his role, I'm waiting on his response to my question.

[TinCow]

In this situation we have two people; one who will be lynched today, and one who will be lynched tomorrow, if we look at the number of votes they have.

Do not assume that you will get a second lynch vote. It's impossible to predict what will happen as a result of this lynch and the next night's results. There are plenty of things that could pop up between now and then that would distract the voting to a different person. So, it's important to pick the person that you suspect the most each round, because no matter how scummy they may seem at this moment, you may not get another shot at that person for a long time, if ever. Ties almost never work out well for the town. When they do, it's due to luck, not planning. Pick a single person and pile votes on them so that they cannot wiggle out of it with last minute vote changes.

[pevergreen]

Ig seems ok.

Others have revealed to me, I'd suggest if you have any active force powers, you do the same. I'm not cross-revealing nor am I revealing info to the town.

[Cecil XIX]

If Ignoramus seems okay, than that leaves vote:YLC

[Choxorn]

We will learn what fighting stances they use. If the winner of a duel use the exact same stance as a night killing sith, then we could say BINGO

There are only 7 fighting stances, and no guarantee that people don't have more than one of them. So no, that wouldn't work.

look if you want me dead you'll need to vig me because I have force breath. Chances are I'll die the next night unless the sith just suck hardcore

Arm of Suspicion: dcmort

Because that's way to scummy for a finger, or even a hand to provide a measure of the scuminess of this post.

Force Breath means they will keep you alive to waste two lynches. Not helpful at all. NOT HELPFUL.

PEOPLE. IF YOU HAVE FORCE BREATH KEEP IT TO YOURSELF.

Well, if you're on the receiving end of a bandwagon, it's helpful to tell us you have force breath so we know that we'll be wasting a lynch by lynching you. Other than that, keep it, and most other powers, to yourself.

[Sasaki Kojiro]

It has already been revealed that sith have fakeclaims...

[ULC]

It has already been revealed that sith have fakeclaims...

I thought mafia games required rationality to be thrown out the window? Also, I sent pever my name, and both abilities I have - if he ever gets back on, maybe he could make a more educated decision.

Honestly, I don't want to pull the vote away to much...but anyone find it odd several people find dcmort suspicious yet have not voted for him? I find it odd that the town needs people killed off to concentrate - what's the issue? If you find someone scummy, then vote for them, just keep everything else in the background. It's not like you have mafia ADD, right?

Here - Vote: dcmort.

[Death is yonder]

I thought I explained this...I do not know Iggys' role, but I know mine, and thus I put my life abve his and if given the opportunity will vote for Iggy if Iggy is to be lynched. My reasoning for insuring that I die instead of tying it up is because that'd reveal more information to the Sith, which I do not want to do, and in which a duel I know Iggy will win.

Also, HoS: DIY, for calling me an Initiate. I'd like to show me where I called myself an initiate.

The way you referred to yourself in a demeaning fashion and downplaying what you could possibly offer in your current situation leads me to believe you are an initiate.

If you were a knight, you WOULD not be acting like this, because you are one of those who are in line to become a Jedi Master.

Needless to say, anything higher than an initiate would not have downplayed himself as much as you did, saying "oh I should die because Ignoramus is obviously in possession of a role greater than mine".

Only an initiate would be so confident in making that bold statement, especially if he does not know who Ignoramus is.

I believe my presumption to be legit, unless you would care to counter my reasoning.

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Oh nevermind, this what I get for not refreshing the page, going off to do things, and then pressing preview to a post I typed.

In any event, I agree that dcmort is a very suspicious character, his move is just downright silly for a townie because as Tincow had mentioned, he's just going to be left as lynch bait if he's innocent. Someone needs to vig him to avoid wasting lynches.

On the subject of people revealing to pever:

Sasaki is right

It has already been revealed that sith have fakeclaims...

Beskar DID have a cover role. I fail to see the point in revealing to pever in order to determine innocence, but rather to cross-reference abilities and all that so pever can highlight any issues or errors that don't tally with what he knows about the game.

[Death is yonder]

so then you either believe I'm innocent or you wast to lynches and get what the mafia wants

This is an extremely poor move dcmort, you should not have revealed that in the first place. Right now you have merely performed an action that has hindered the town effort, I see little reason to grant you what you wish, which is to just leave you alive all game in hopes that you were just a silly townie who accidentally revealed himself to have force breath.

[pevergreen]

Beskar DID have a cover role. I fail to see the point in revealing to pever in order to determine innocence, but rather to cross-reference abilities and all that so pever can highlight any issues or errors that don't tally with what he knows about the game.

Correct, anyone sending me anything is not being determined as innocent, I just have a note of what powers they have. Names are helpful, as I can then learn more from the night results, as certain attacks fail to certain defences.

[ULC]

Still a little peeved I'm getting knocked out so early, wish I had been lucky enough to get force breath - I think I fear the overzealousness of the town compared to night kills of the mafia.

I'd cry though if I could win the duel ;_; - I'd feel betrayed by my own principles.

[slysnake]

For multiple reasons, Ignoramus should be the lynch target today.

However, I'd like people to remember dcmort and lynch him asap after Iggy.

Agreed vote:Ignoramus

[Csargo]

Unvote:, Vote:pever

[Ibn-Khaldun]

Vote: Ignoramus

[Ignoramus]

Can someone do an updated tally?

[Andres]

They both look scummy. It's hard to chose

[Greyblades]

This is getting confusing. Vote: YLC

[pevergreen]

Unvote:, Vote:pever

Really?

They both look scummy. It's hard to chose

New choice: Ichigo

[Diamondeye]

Okay why is it no-one understands what the YLC is saying/doing. I makes me ing frustrated to read since he's acting completely logical.
unvote; vote: Zack. I can't decide who of YLC and Ignoramus I want lynched - an initiate striking me as town, or something stronger that I am as convinced about? So I'm taking the third option and loding my vote on Zack as he's either playing stupid or he's really, really deft when it comes to YLC's reasoning. Perhaps he has a reason to let the case on YLC continue despite being outargued?
Same about HoS: Nightbringer...

[Diamondeye]

an initiate striking me as town, or something stronger that I am not as convinced about?

Fixxed in seperate post to avoid editing a post with a vote (YLC, you edited your last vote post, you might want to repost your vote as well)

[Beefy187]

Okay why is it no-one understands what the YLC is saying/doing. I makes me ing frustrated to read since he's acting completely logical.
unvote; vote: Zack. I can't decide who of YLC and Ignoramus I want lynched - an initiate striking me as town, or something stronger that I am as convinced about? So I'm taking the third option and loding my vote on Zack as he's either playing stupid or he's really, really deft when it comes to YLC's reasoning. Perhaps he has a reason to let the case on YLC continue despite being outargued?
Same about HoS: Nightbringer...

Neutral behavior is scummy in my book.
FoS: Diamondeye!

[ArpeggiateTHIS]

Unvote:, Vote:pever

What?

[Sigurd]

Sticking with my vote.

And for the sake of important iterations. Be careful of what you reveal. Powers are likely tiered.
The Sith will have knowledge of which power belongs in which tier. Saying you have force breath and it is a Jedi Master power, you just revealed to the Sith that you are at least a Jedi Master.

[ULC]

Sigurd, I'm sure pever isn't simply handing out any information he gathers...

@DE - thanks, at least I make sense to someone.

Unvote, Vote:Dcmort for now. I'd build up some reasoning for everyone to vote for him NOW, instead of LATER, but I'm a bit tired. Suffice it to say that if you find him scummy now, with the possibility of Force Breath, best to get it done and over with before it turns into an issue. I'd also say it's unfair to Iggy to outright kill him based upon previous games, as IMHO it borders on metagaming (as first protown zerg rushes on ATPG, Beskar, TC, Khann, etc are).

Me? Well, I just really don't want to die because for once in awhile I lack a completely insane role and am having fun at the same time. Any additional attempt to defend myself either brings up the apparently both sane yet utterly distasteful idea of roleblocking the Sith into non-recruiting submission (if possible - if not possible, then alternatives abound and we know better, sooner), or what I've already stated for the I think the 9th or 10th time.

[Jarema]

Sigurd,
ATPG informed us that some characters start with powers from higher levels, presumably also powers like force breath.
Of course, it would not be a good idea to publicly reveal such informations anyway