Star Wars: Fall of the Order [Concluded]

[Cecil XIX]

Why have you seen Chaotix's picture?

It's posted at the start of the day because he's the Grandmaster.

[Frozen In Ice]

A lot of stuff being wondered about is open knowledge, all you have to do is ask Pizza. He told me the highest vigilante combo a Jedi could learn was two total actions, either with one on two people each or two on one. Whether the Sith could possibly learn more than that is unforseen however.

Also, I must echo Renata and say that Sith don't have to attack with red sabers.

[Chaotix]

Also, I must echo Renata and say that Sith don't have to attack with red sabers.

You asked ATPG and got this information?

So far, it has only been assumed or thought, but never proven one way or another. And it is critical to have such proof, because it determines whether I can consider active vigilantes as suspects.

I don't think ATPG would give away such information, but if you tell me your info is from him I have no reason to disbelieve a dead townie.

[Askthepizzaguy]

I have answered this question before:

Could someone attacking with a non-red saber be a Sith? Yes.

Red means Sith. Not red doesn't mean not Sith.

[seireikhaan]

And done slaying the Finals dragon. People should be ignoring Chaotix, and attacking him. The sudden urgency in his posting can be tasted. Also, Kage, stop being unhelpful.

[Chaotix]

I have answered this question before:

Could someone attacking with a non-red saber be a Sith? Yes.

Red means Sith. Not red doesn't mean not Sith.

Thank you.

The attack is still necessary; the Sith will not want to waste night actions attacking a single person when they can hit as many as four if they want to. This is still going to curtail the number of kills tonight, and it still tells me who the Sith are if there are refusals.

Doing nothing, or even investigating, is pointless because the Sith will say they are doing one thing and then do another, without any way to prove they are lying. This will prove who, exactly, is lying.

[Cecil XIX]

Indeed. It's good that ATPG clarified matters, but it changes nothing.

[pevergreen]

Cecil > pever.

Yeah, the guy that was basically a no-show for half the game is definately > than me.

Why not quote more Cecil? Because it could be faked.

You have access to a quicktopic with the following info Cecil, why havent you posted it?

Spoiler Alert, click show to read: 

Night 1
Chaotix killed beskar
Red lightsaber kill
Dark figure kills with red lightsaber
Red lightsaber kill

night 2;
Chaotix investigates
figure kills with force
figure kills with force

Night 3:
chaotix investigate
figure kills with force
dark figure with 2 red lightsaber
dark figure with red lightsaber

Night 4:
Chaotix kill attempt
dark figure red lightsaber
sith kills pever

Night 5:
Sith apprentice revived
figure kills with force (dark one)
figure kills with force scream (sith power)
chaotix kill attempt

night 6:
Double bladed red lightsaber kill (likely dark one)
dark figure kill with force
figure kills with force scream
chaotix kill beskar

night 7:
figure kills with force scream
figure kills with force
chaotix kill attempt
figure kill same target as chaotix

night 8:
possible sith missed kill
force kill
chaotix kill

Ig was suspicious of Chaotix, I said it was incredibly unlikely he was the sith lord. Doesn't mean i think he is town aligned though.

[Frozen In Ice]

Yes I agree that the plan should be gone through with. If everyone abides by it, then at worst we only lose one Jedi which is a lot better than we'd probably do otherwise.

[Nightbringer]

Yes I agree that the plan should be gone through with. If everyone abides by it, then at worst we only lose one Jedi which is a lot better than we'd probably do otherwise.

My thoughts exactly

[Chaotix]

Yeah, the guy that was basically a no-show for half the game is definately > than me.

Why not quote more Cecil? Because it could be faked.

You have access to a quicktopic with the following info Cecil, why havent you posted it?

Spoiler Alert, click show to read: 

Night 1
Chaotix killed beskar
Red lightsaber kill
Dark figure kills with red lightsaber
Red lightsaber kill

night 2;
Chaotix investigates
figure kills with force
figure kills with force

Night 3:
chaotix investigate
figure kills with force
dark figure with 2 red lightsaber
dark figure with red lightsaber

Night 4:
Chaotix kill attempt
dark figure red lightsaber
sith kills pever

Night 5:
Sith apprentice revived
figure kills with force (dark one)
figure kills with force scream (sith power)
chaotix kill attempt

night 6:
Double bladed red lightsaber kill (likely dark one)
dark figure kill with force
figure kills with force scream
chaotix kill beskar

night 7:
figure kills with force scream
figure kills with force
chaotix kill attempt
figure kill same target as chaotix

night 8:
possible sith missed kill
force kill
chaotix kill

Ig was suspicious of Chaotix, I said it was incredibly unlikely he was the sith lord. Doesn't mean i think he is town aligned though.

Concerning my alignment, here's what it boils down to:
-If I am pro-town as I say, I am basically the town's last hope.
-If I am anti-town as you say, the town has already lost this game.

I wouldn't be trying to limit the number of kills tonight if I was out to kill you all. Between me and the two Sith, we could have as many as six people dead tonight, and I assume the Sith have Force Breath, because at this point most of the players we've lynched, Sith or not, have had Force Breath. That would leave as few as five players left tomorrow, with three being the Sith and me. Clearly if I am anti-town, you never stood a chance in the first place. So, you better believe I am trying to help.

I am trying to keep as many people alive as possible and narrow the suspects, because they are going to die even without me pitching in to the killing.

[pevergreen]

Destiny has cheated me,
by forcing me to decide upon,
the woman that I idolise,
or the powers of a sith lord.
Without these powers,
I can't complete,
the killing that was captivating her,
but if I keep them,
and she murders me,
then she probably won't,
want me dating her...

Ahhh Nomi, it seems you transferred Kyp's feelings over to Jacin.

[Askthepizzaguy]

You're always after Nomi's awesome body. Tsk tsk pevergreen.

I should just be Nomi all the time, so you can otherwise stand my presence.


Edit: Also this round will last longer than 24 hours, as I am immersed in job applications and other RL considerations. Apologies again for the delay.

You guys need the extra time anyway to send in orders. But I wouldn't extend it just for that. I honestly can't do this tonight.

[Nightbringer]

no problem pizza, take all the time you need!

[Ironside]

Concerning my alignment, here's what it boils down to:
-If I am pro-town as I say, I am basically the town's last hope.
-If I am anti-town as you say, the town has already lost this game.

I wouldn't be trying to limit the number of kills tonight if I was out to kill you all. Between me and the two Sith, we could have as many as six people dead tonight, and I assume the Sith have Force Breath, because at this point most of the players we've lynched, Sith or not, have had Force Breath. That would leave as few as five players left tomorrow, with three being the Sith and me. Clearly if I am anti-town, you never stood a chance in the first place. So, you better believe I am trying to help.

I am trying to keep as many people alive as possible and narrow the suspects, because they are going to die even without me pitching in to the killing.

Poor, poor town. With that accidental confession of yours, it's obvious that you're only trying to "help" because you can't take out the other Sith by yourself.

So what are you going to do tonight? Join the rest of the vigi or? Or are you alone above suspicion?

[Ignoramus]

While I'm still suspicious of Chaotix, please follow his advice. If he is Sith it should be detectable.

[Kagemusha]

And done slaying the Finals dragon. People should be ignoring Chaotix, and attacking him. The sudden urgency in his posting can be tasted. Also, Kage, stop being unhelpful.

Me unhelpful? Nooo..You must be mistaken me for another person. I am very helpful and i plan on contributing also in the future. Now you all just need to follow what ever Chaotix is planning and everything will be fine.

[Andres]

Me unhelpful? Nooo..You must be mistaken me for another person. I am very helpful and i plan on contributing also in the future. Now you all just need to follow what ever Chaotix is planning and everything will be fine.

I, for one, am thankful for the assistance offered to us by the noble, law abiding and God fearing Dark Lord of the Sith. Why this man has been removed while all he wanted was to make an honest living, goes beyond me. It is a shame that the nitpicking and overly strict Jedi Order denied this noble citizen the right to achieve his goals!

Please, oh mighty one, give us the name of your apprentices so that we may protect them against this scandalous Jedi Order.

[Kagemusha]

I, for one, am thankful for the assistance offered to us by the noble, law abiding and God fearing Dark Lord of the Sith. Why this man has been removed while all he wanted was to make an honest living, goes beyond me. It is a shame that the nitpicking and overly strict Jedi Order denied this noble citizen the right to achieve his goals!

Please, oh mighty one, give us the name of your apprentices so that we may protect them against this scandalous Jedi Order.

Apprentices? What apprentices? See as i am The Dark side, my apprentices are a Legion. The dark side has taken control of this ship so that all the little jedi line up for attacking and killing one of their own, so they might even get a glimpse of dark side to their small souls. I am enjoying this situation very much and approve continuing such tactics right until only the most formidable of my apprentices will stand alone to rule.

[Renata]

You asked ATPG and got this information?

So far, it has only been assumed or thought, but never proven one way or another. And it is critical to have such proof, because it determines whether I can consider active vigilantes as suspects.

I don't think ATPG would give away such information, but if you tell me your info is from him I have no reason to disbelieve a dead townie.

Sometimes I feel like I'm talking to myself.

[God Emperor]

done reading the thread now. I must say I fail to understand why Double A should be a killed by vigilantes, and I think Sasaki is right; we shouldn't vigilante kill anyone tonight.

@ Nightbringer , what speciality did you pick? lightsaber, force, balanced ?

I've taken a good long look at the night actions from the first few nights, and the nature of the visible actions is such that I have difficultly believing that Chaotix could have pulled off a Sith attack on N1 and N4 in addition to his purple saber hits. Under those cricumstances, everything else that is scummy about Chaotix seems to be irrelevant, as he has an alibi.

I'm going to do my best to just keep my mouth shut from here on out, as I seem to be doing more harm than good when trying to find the Sith.

It would be the real harm if you decided to lay low

[Diamondeye]

Yeah, the guy that was basically a no-show for half the game is definately > than me.

I'm sorry, I meant in the present tense; Cecil gave a good advice and you've obviously thrown the switch shut off from this game already. Hence my statement.

Sometimes I feel like I'm talking to myself.

What?

[Nightbringer]

done reading the thread now. I must say I fail to understand why Double A should be a killed by vigilantes, and I think Sasaki is right; we shouldn't vigilante kill anyone tonight.

@ Nightbringer , what speciality did you pick? lightsaber, force, balanced ?




It would be the real harm if you decided to lay low

I am force focused, and I just gained the ability to vig twice in one night. I am attacking double a because I think it is pretty clear chaotix isnt sith, due to his alibi, and even if his plan doesnt work, it will give us SOME information.

[TinCow]

I am force focused, and I just gained the ability to vig twice in one night. I am attacking double a because I think it is pretty clear chaotix isnt sith, due to his alibi, and even if his plan doesnt work, it will give us SOME information.

You went from having no attacking ability at all to having two attacks per night in a single night?

[Chaotix]

You went from having no attacking ability at all to having two attacks per night in a single night?

Once you're at Master level, "Twin Sabers" is the standard killing ability, it seems. All masters should be able to perform two actions at night, provided they have abilities to use. As soon as Nightbringer got the killing ability, he was able to use it twice. Note that using Twin Sabers does NOT actually give you two lightsabers, it just lets you use two forms.

It's not too far-fetched.

[Nightbringer]

You went from having no attacking ability at all to having two attacks per night in a single night?

Yes, but i feel it is justified as I went the whole game until now with no active abilities, so I have to make up for it :)

[Askthepizzaguy]

Gonna start the writeup now. No more orders will be accepted.

[Double A]

Ooops, Chaotix. I may have accidentally sent in vig orders for you instead of Csargo.

Please note this act was totally unintentional, and that I do not think you are anti-town at all.

[Beefy187]

We're done for..

[Seon]

WE'RE DOOOOOOOMED!

Darn it pizza, if I am going to die, I demand to go waving a metallic can and shouting "STAY BACK! I HAVE A THERMAL DETONATER IN MY HAND!"