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    Awesome "anti-New Deal/Chinese/Obama/Communist practices" ad

    So, will the evil Chinese rule all the Americans?

    Now some people are calling this add racist because it plays on a "yellow scare". I don't think so, the video does pose some interesting concepts.

    Racist? No. It didn't portray the Chinese as evil, it portrayed them as competent. Frightening, but not evil. And it implicitly raised concerns with the Chinese government rather than the people. Observe the students- eager, good-looking (especially the girl to the left at :14) and clean. Then look at the Mao banner on the wall. Message: do you really, really want the chicom government, already commanding these disciplined young people, to have more leverage over the US?

    Compare and contrast the disciplined students portrayed with common US perceptions of lazy, incompetent American students (perennial perceptions, I know). Message: These people have their shit together. Why can't the US? Why can't we balance our budget and get things done?
    While this message isn't mine, it does portray a rather arguable vision of what they saw in the video. I, for one, only see the merging Chinese scaremongering (Whose laugh plays well into the patriotic crowd, who are used to seeing USA as the world's best and they now see foreigners laughing at the American "subservience") and an attempt to criticize Obama and his policy-making, who is the responsible government for "making Americans work for the Chinese".

    But still, it's an awesome ad.
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    It's already too late the West gave up working for a living a long time ago.
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    Silly political ad. More scaremongering ahead of the elections.


    Considering where foreign money to influence US elections is being spend, it is not Obama / the Democrats who are working for foreigners. Want to support foreign lobbyists and push their agenda through in Washington? Vote Republican.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Louis VI the Fat View Post
    Silly political ad. More scaremongering ahead of the elections.


    Considering where foreign money to influence US elections is being spend, it is not Obama / the Democrats who are working for foreigners. Want to support foreign lobbyists and push their agenda through in Washington? Vote Republican.
    How cynical, its almost as if you are under the silly notion that there is a large difference between democrats and republicans. There isnt, each have done their share of the U.S., so of course taking foreign money to keep power to continue the cycle is a necessary evil for both of them.

    http://www.openmarket.org/2010/10/18...foreign-money/

    Its hard to focus when the glare of light from the halo's on the dems head is so blinding eh? Party affiliation dosent matter Louis its systemic and those in the system take the cash.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Odin View Post
    http://www.openmarket.org/2010/10/18...foreign-money/

    Its hard to focus when the glare of light from the halo's on the dems head is so blinding eh? Party affiliation dosent matter Louis its systemic and those in the system take the cash.
    Mubarak Obama is a Muslim himself so he doesn't need to be bought by foreigners!

    Almost as importantly, that source strikes me as a bit of an activist blog. The big news is the attack on Democracy, and on Obama's agenda by the Chamber of Commerce, which aggressively pursuis anonymous donations from corporations both American and foreign.

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    Prudential Financial sent in a $2 million donation last year as the U.S. Chamber of Commerce kicked off a national advertising campaign to weaken the historic rewrite of the nation’s financial regulations.
    Dow Chemical delivered $1.7 million to the chamber last year as the group took a leading role in aggressively fighting proposed rules that would impose tighter security requirements on chemical facilities.

    And Goldman Sachs, Chevron Texaco, and Aegon, a multinational insurance company based in the Netherlands, donated more than $8 million in recent years to a chamber foundation that has been critical of growing federal regulation and spending. These large donations — none of which were publicly disclosed by the chamber, a tax-exempt group that keeps its donors secret, as it is allowed by law — offer a glimpse of the chamber’s money-raising efforts, which it has ramped up recently in an orchestrated campaign to become one of the most well-financed critics of the Obama administration and an influential player in this fall’s Congressional elections.

    They suggest that the recent allegations from President Obama and others that foreign money has ended up in the chamber’s coffers miss a larger point: The chamber has had little trouble finding American companies eager to enlist it, anonymously, to fight their political battles and pay handsomely for its help.

    And these contributions, some of which can be pieced together through tax filings of corporate foundations and other public records, also show how the chamber has increasingly relied on a relatively small collection of big corporate donors to finance much of its legislative and political agenda. The chamber makes no apologies for its policy of not identifying its donors. It has vigorously opposed legislation in Congress that would require groups like it to identify their biggest contributors when they spend money on campaign ads.

    Proponents of that measure pointed to reports that health insurance providers funneled at least $10 million to the chamber last year, all of it anonymously, to oppose President Obama’s health care legislation.
    “The major supporters of us in health care last year were confronted with protests at their corporate headquarters, protests and harassment at the C.E.O.’s homes,” said R. Bruce Josten, the chief lobbyist at the chamber, whose office looks out on the White House. “You are wondering why companies want some protection. It is pretty clear.”

    The chamber’s increasingly aggressive role — including record spending in the midterm elections that supports Republicans more than 90 percent of the time — has made it a target of critics, including a few local chamber affiliates who fear it has become too partisan and hard-nosed in its fund-raising.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Louis VI the Fat View Post
    Mubarak Obama is a Muslim himself so he doesn't need to be bought by foreigners!

    Almost as importantly, that source strikes me as a bit of an activist blog. The big news is the attack on Democracy, and on Obama's agenda by the Chamber of Commerce, which aggressively pursuis anonymous donations from corporations both American and foreign.

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    Yes they do, which is perfectly legal. Those crazy right wing nuts on the supreme court really made it hard for the democrats didnt they? The issue is relevance, is the surplus cash relevant to the current election process or democracy as a whole? The responsibility to make the ultimate decision is the voter and unless they are giving checks out for votes label me skeptical on its impact.

    I mean 5000 ads against 3500 isnt the tipping point in this election if polls are to be believed, voters are angry at washington period. No amount of cash is going to make that go away until joe avarage see's light at the end of the tunnel.
    There are few things more annoying than some idiot who has never done anything trying to say definitively how something should be done.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Odin View Post
    Words.
    Odin! When did you crawl out of that toilet you used to flush yourself down into at the end of every post?

    I'm not really worried about US citizens working for the Chinese, the US was built on hard labour, it's their way of life, they're used to earning their place in life, they should celebrate that the Chinese do not plan to leave anyone in the US a couch potato on the government payroll! Or should I say on the Chinese payroll?
    I'm sure the Chinese would also bring back traditional values and manners to the US, stop gang crime etc., think of the possibilities!


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    China? Are we still really afraid of China? That's so 1990s.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Husar View Post
    Odin! When did you crawl out of that toilet you used to flush yourself down into at the end of every post?

    I'm not really worried about US citizens working for the Chinese, the US was built on hard labour, it's their way of life, they're used to earning their place in life, they should celebrate that the Chinese do not plan to leave anyone in the US a couch potato on the government payroll! Or should I say on the Chinese payroll?
    I'm sure the Chinese would also bring back traditional values and manners to the US, stop gang crime etc., think of the possibilities!
    I was fighting the war on terror like every good american, my investment required time away from civilization. The problem with your theory is who is going to buy chinese goods? Consumption still drives the process and last time I checked the chinese didnt have 2 auto's in the driveway and houses filled with unnecessary crap. Most of them are still trying to get thier bowl of rice a day.
    There are few things more annoying than some idiot who has never done anything trying to say definitively how something should be done.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Odin View Post
    Kool, we can say now in the forum... i have long waited for this day!!!
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    /\ Well that won't last long.

    Anyways - on the idea that the GOP simply does whatever big business wants. Walmart, one of the biggest companies in the world supported both universal healthcare and minimum wage increases. Yup, two key Democratic party positions.

    Why? Because it helps them; they are using the government to crush smaller business competition, which often pay minimum wages and can't afford company healthcare like Walmart can.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Devastatin Dave View Post
    Kool, we can say now in the forum... i have long waited for this day!!!
    I didnt realize you couldnt say it, eitherway its not like I have a lot to loose. I think I have visted here 4 times in the last 3 years, last time I got a warn from seamus so somehow I suspect I am on borrowed time anyway.
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    Thanks to this video, I now know the Greek and Roman empires fell because of massive taxes and healthcare reforms.

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    As for China, I for one, welcome our autocratic, arrogant, bullying new global overlords.


    Duh. Not.


    Let's pray India, Brazil / South America, Turkey, Russia, Iran etc will continue their economic ascencion, while developing / adopting democracy and the rule of law. At least a majority of them.

    Then again, wishful thinking for the most part. Much of the world can't wait to teach the arrogant West a lesson or two. What from the perspective of the West is considered globalisation, is for many outside the West a global struggle for supremacy, one that they feel they are gaining the upper hand in. They're loving it. They don't understand, or wish to accept, that from the perspective of the West there is no power struggle, that the West is not trying to keep them down. They think the West is stupid, that the West is being outwitted time and again despite its bid to retain supremacy.

    Alas. Things could get lonely this century, it sucks to be a democracy that's outnumbered and outpowered by autocracies. I had hoped to have left that behind in the 1930's.
    Only America can make the world save for democracy.

    Help us, Obama-Wan, you're our only hope!


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    Quote Originally Posted by Louis VI the Fat View Post
    Alas. Things could get lonely this century, it sucks to be a democracy that's outnumbered and outpowered by autocracies. I had hoped to have left that behind in the 1930's.
    Only America can make the world save for democracy.
    Maybe it's time Japan goes at it again in China?
    BLARGH!

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    A western-style democracy in Iran? Yes, please. I want to see Isfahan for myself..
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