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    Default Re: Nazi references, Part Deux

    Quote Originally Posted by rory_20_uk View Post
    Jews in germany place secular, National law above religious law. This is something that should be expected of all religious groups. Of course some have grown up with the state and so will be very similar. But if that's a problem then find a country with views that are more similar.
    Its interesting you say this, and the tricky thing about reconciling/absorbing/integrating Islam into western societies is that it is such wide ranging religion. We could have a very interesting and enlightening discussion about it I'm sure. Some Muslims, like al-Qaradawi truly see it as an all encompassing credo, others like Dr Kamal Helbawi (also Muslim brotherhood of Egypt) are more embracing of democracy and liberty.

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    Default Re: Nazi references, Part Deux

    So is Christianity or Paganism.

    The expectation should be that religions bend to state rules and laws, and not the other way around.

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