What should the voting age be?

[Rhyfelwyr]

stuff about Sami

The answer that first springs to mind is that the Sami never had the various economic/social blabla preconditions to allow for the development of nationhood that took place in Ireland. The Sami do not have any sort of concept of the nation state as the Irish do, so being under another nation state such as Norway is not seen as a major issue to them.

The Irish were not averse to rule from London (in general, obviously there were particular issues) until such preconditions were met eg a strong middle-class, the rise of nationalism etc... it was only after these that Ireland reinvented itself and created this image of it being distinct from the rest of Britain. That is what all nationalist movements do.

"Being heard" means "not being overruled". I'm not talking about just physically hearing a voice.

As I've said to Gaelic, try replacing "heard" with "seen"

Well if you don't want the majority opinion of Spain as a whole to overrule the Basques then you can't support democracy.

If you say democracy is more than one thing, then what sort of democratic measure do you propose that will allow the Basques to have a real role in governing Spain?