Rights of the illegal immigrant

**The Stranger** · 11-05-2010, 16:32

According to Amnesty International the Netherlands violate the rights of the illegal immigrant in the way they deal with illegal immigrants.

*They usually lock up illegal immigrants immediatly, while it is supposed to be an ultimate remedy if everything else fails.
*The places where they are locked up in are often far worse than prison cells and the duration for which the illegal immigrants are locked up far exceeds that of most other countries (100 days vs a common 45-30 days).
*The medical care and legal protection are far under the standard. Complaints from illegal immigrants about abusive guards are barely looked into, lawyers more and more decline to defend an illegal immigrant because the state has decreased the funding.
*Many illegal immigrants (including people on hunger strike) are locked up in isolation cells and this is against article 13 of the human rights treaty: forbidding inhumane and humiliating treatment.
*Amnesty also states that many vulnarable people are locked up, including children, victims of torture and human smuggle, pregnant women (an incident took place where are pregnant woman was send to the hospital in chains to give birth to her child), sick and elderly people.

some other "facts" include:

*yearly the dutch taxpayer pays 92,7 million euros for the dealing of this "problem". According to amnesty with the use of alternatives such as a bail or a notification obligation, about 70 million euros could be saved

http://www.volkskrant.nl/vk/nl/2686/...ugt-niet.dhtml

**Strike For The South** · 11-05-2010, 16:36

Links or your asteriks are meaningless

**Skullheadhq** · 11-05-2010, 16:54

Evil lefties lock up and mistreat illegal immigrants, I bet it's the PvdA again.

**gaelic cowboy** · 11-05-2010, 17:04

I wouldn't take heed of any links anyway what are Amnesty gonna say that they treat them ok so lets close our Dutch affiliate to concentrate on Burma and the like.

Amnesty has lost it's way in the last few years there are still plenty people in prison in Russia, Burma, China and North Korea thats what they should see as there core competency.

**rory_20_uk** · 11-05-2010, 17:07

Originally Posted by gaelic cowboy

I wouldn't take heed of any links anyway what are Amnesty gonna say that they treat them ok so lets close our Dutch affiliate to concentrate on Burma and the like.

Amnesty has lost it's way in the last few years there are still plenty people in prison in Russia, Burma, China and North Korea thats what they should see as there core competency.

I agree. The massive influx of illegal immigrants to the West shows that all in all the benefits are worth the risks - else why not seek asylum in a neighbouring country like one is supposed to do, unstead of crossing continents to try to get the best deal?

**al Roumi** · 11-05-2010, 17:46

Originally Posted by rory_20_uk

I agree. The massive influx of illegal immigrants to the West shows that all in all the benefits are worth the risks - else why not seek asylum in a neighbouring country like one is supposed to do, unstead of crossing continents to try to get the best deal?

Why wouldn't one seek the best possible outcome from what has got to be an appaling thing to deal with? Especially when the "neighbouring country" might be already rammed with other refugees, all to quick to repatriate, incapable of helping you or in league with the people who you are fleeing from. People come to the west seeking asylum because of the liberty we proudly sound off about espousing.

On a seperate note, amnesty shouldn't be (but often is) put in the same phrase as migration. They are most definitley not the same thing.