Preview: The Qarthadastim

**Arjos** · 11-02-2010, 17:37

Amazing, I really needed this XD
The region descriptions are awesome, with the family tree and the authority buildings, you pushed the roleplaying to the limit...
The great part is that this is just the tip of the iceberg :P
Also those with the falcata near the bottom row are a masterpiece O.o
So many things to appreciate: I love the hair style for the skirmishers ^^

**Paltmull** · 11-02-2010, 17:53

(as usual)

This is gonna take a while to read. Those Sacred Band are probably the most beautiful TW- units that I've ever seen. Simply stunning.

I keep changing my signature banner after every preview. xD It will be completely impossible to choose which faction to begin with when EBII is released.

**jazstl** · 11-02-2010, 20:59

Jupijaijej.

**Denixen** · 11-02-2010, 21:33

Wow, this is amazing, thank you guys! The new features seems to be both more numerous and more complex, just as we like it :D.
One of the things i really appreciate is that now all units basic infantry have sword, or so it seems. All units in the pictures had a sword modeled on their side, but only the sacred band units wield it in their hands (and a lovely kopis no less, or at least a sword with similar design). Is there any confirmation on whether the Liby-Phoenician Hoplites and Libyan Infantry will have swords that are usable and not just modeled? I really missed the swords for Liby-Phoenician Hoplites when I was up against other sword wielding nations like rome.

**Klearchos** · 11-02-2010, 21:49

Amazing preview!!!
The province descriptions were great, and the shields look perfect!!

**Reno Melitensis** · 11-02-2010, 22:09

No words can describe what you are doing EB team, you are simply fantastic.

Cheers.

**James Purefoy** · 11-02-2010, 22:36

As I was ogling the lovely units, I noticed something about this one:

https://img517.imageshack.us/f/sb4j.jpg/

That star on the.. red shoulder-pad. I thought that was mainly a Greek symbol.
Did the Carthaginians use it, or is this just a part of the unit that is still WIP?

p.s. Units still look awesome

**Noble Wrath** · 11-02-2010, 23:04

A few observations:

1) The notion of the Liby-Phoenicians being the non-privileged offspring of phoenician citizens and libyan peasant girls seemed always a bit problematic to me. I could not understand whether they were militia type soldiers or professionals, whether they bought their own equipment or it was provided by the state and most importantly why those "half breeds" fought in a phalanx formation whereas the Libyans who where clearly professionals and equipped by the state fought in a thyreophoroi/thorakitai fashion.

The new description answers all of my above questions: The Liby-Phoenicians are now just the citizens of the phoenician colonies other than Kart-Hadast (the possibility of intermarriage with locals being irrelevant to their social status), they are a militia force and as such they fight with their own panoply, using traditional tactics.

2) The possibility of rebellions led by disloyal generals or client rulers is thrilling. Just a question: if the settlement governed by such a character revolts, then does this general defects to the eleutheroi faction or is he just evicted by the settlement and still belongs to our faction? (in which case we must send him pirate hunting in the Baltic

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3) I really like that if all provinces administered by the council are lost, this government option (and with it I guess some elite units) are permanently lost. It gives your core provinces the importance they deserve.

4) The units are orgasmic as always.

**Tanit** · 11-03-2010, 02:19

Originally Posted by Noble Wrath

1) The notion of the Liby-Phoenicians being the non-privileged offspring of phoenician citizens and libyan peasant girls seemed always a bit problematic to me. I could not understand whether they were militia type soldiers or professionals, whether they bought their own equipment or it was provided by the state and most importantly why those "half breeds" fought in a phalanx formation whereas the Libyans who where clearly professionals and equipped by the state fought in a thyreophoroi/thorakitai fashion.

The new description answers all of my above questions: The Liby-Phoenicians are now just the citizens of the phoenician colonies other than Kart-Hadast (the possibility of intermarriage with locals being irrelevant to their social status), they are a militia force and as such they fight with their own panoply, using traditional tactics.

Thank you!

Originally Posted by Mouzafphaerre;

Just out of curiousity; I remember the team collaborating with Charles R. Krahmalkov for the reconstruction of the Qarthasti-Phoenician language during the preparation of EB1. What's up with that? (Unless it's confidential to the team or any interested parties of course. )

This was done by Kikosemmek, our Punic language expert, and Urnamma, the old FC of Carthage. It is true this was done for EB1, but most of the names were redone for EB2 by myself, Kiko and GG2.

Originally Posted by Mouzafphaerre;

When will the demo come out?

This information is classified. :)