Courtesy of this man....
Nice guy.
I don't think that they should have the vote. Do you?
Edit: Some good news, this berk might be called back to gaol. Excellent.
Prisoners to get the vote.
Courtesy of this man....
Nice guy.
I don't think that they should have the vote. Do you?
Edit: Some good news, this berk might be called back to gaol. Excellent.
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Re: Prisoners to get the vote.
My personal view is that jail should be reserved for either prolific / repeat offenders or those who have committed violent / 'orrible crimes. Most other offences should be dealt with in the community in terms of fines and community service (which should be properly supervised).
Jail should therefore be a pretty nasty place with few amenities and a 6 day a week work schedule.
I also think that these individuals are repaying society back for their crimes. Until they have done so they are not citizens and therefore have a vastly reduced set of rights - one of which definitely isn't the right to vote.
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Re: Prisoners to get the vote.
I am against a blanket ban on voting rights for prisoners. Everybody has got rights, and any government infringement of any right needs to be for a specific purpose. Society needs to protect its liberties by curbing both the powers of the government and of the criminal.Originally Posted by InsaneApache
Having said that, civic rights come with civic duties, and anybody who has committed a crime punishable by, say, more than two years imprisonment, has shown himself grossly unwilling to accept civic duty. So no vote for them.
Gaol, lest we forget, is meant to avenge too. The prisoner is supposed to lose something with it.
I just read an interview with him. A tragic lifestory, indeed. Otherwise, all the usual nasty tripe which is so typical of the criminal mind. He'll be a repeat offender.Some good news, this berk might be called back to gaol. Excellent.
http://news.bbc.co.uk/local/humbersi...00/9151866.stm
Re: Prisoners to get the vote.
more less agree with your view Louis, what i object to is where the judgement came from.
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Re: Prisoners to get the vote.
I watched up until he said "because you can't start saying that certain people have human rights and other people don't have human rights"...what about the right to liberty, dumbass?
Re: Prisoners to get the vote.
I think that prisoners should not only have the vote I think they should be allowed stand for election, I don't want some fella deciding where some arbitrary line is for enfranchisement who says where it stops eventually.
My reason is simple as long as the right to vote cannot be take from a prisoner then it cant be taken from me simple as, you could end up in a situation where a country could start locking up all sorts of people up on spurious minor charges road tax etc and swing an election.
Some of you will say well maybe not for minor charges but where is the divide between minor and serious crime to lose the vote it would and is seriously grey.
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Re: Prisoners to get the vote.
more or less why i don't have time for the concept of inalienable human rights, every right is a right conferred by society and extended for so long as society wills it.
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Re: Prisoners to get the vote.
I'm not sure that follows though. You can still have rights that exist independently of what society says, that can't be given away by people, and that can only be lost by willfully committing crimes.
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