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    The Lords have started work on a Napoleonic mod

    You can download 7 unit animations
    to try out here

    It's 4.7megs.

    Let me know what you think of the units
    and if you would like to help, that would be nice.

    Thank you

    regards,

    LK

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    What's wrong has the cat got your tounge?
    I got a better response to the Buffy thread
    and that was a joke


    BTW if you want to cantact us about this by email
    please do so at
    TheLords@thelordz.co.uk

    You don't have to be a patron
    of the ORG to contact us neither.
    I am well aware that pleanty of non members
    view these boards and your input is welcome too

    Regards

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    Im too lazy to actually try them out, why dont you post some screens of battle?
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    Quote Originally Posted by [b
    Quote[/b] (Dramicus @ Mar. 09 2003,22:46)]Im too lazy to actually try them out, why dont you post some screens of battle?
    Because in that case you'd probably also be too lazy to look at the screen shots.



    LK,

    What exactly are you planning on in terms of how far your going with this mod. What do you need help with -

    1) creating more units
    2) prod11/build13/projstats
    3) images/icons/buildings (tech tree stuff)
    4) loc/eng file changes
    5) startpos file changes
    6) a new campaign map
    7) researching the Nap era

    There may be a relatively easy way to do 1) above - creating new units (with different colours for, say, trousers, stripes, epaulettes, plumes etc ) based on your original 7 bifs (same ideas I had with the Lords Romans).

    Enough people understand enough of the 3 files in 2) - but it still means a lot of changes to prod11 (in fact almost a complete rewrite).

    Major changes to 3) will be required for a Nap mod 'cos it means changing almost everything in MTW so you'll need a few people working on this alone. Still, these changes can be ongoing over time as per Patrician.

    If you planning major changes as per 4), 5) and 6) then let me know. A lot of this should be relatively straightforward now.

    7) should be straightforward enough. Just a case of changing the prod files really to present more firepower and less melee differences.

    Let me know what your planning and I'll see if I can assist in some of the parts - other parts I'll be steering well clear of

    Welly

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    Quote Originally Posted by [b
    Quote[/b] (Wellington @ Mar. 09 2003,23:10)]LK,

    What exactly are you planning on in terms of how far your going with this mod. What do you need help with -

    1) creating more units
    2) prod11/build13/projstats
    3) images/icons/buildings (tech tree stuff)
    4) loc/eng file changes
    5) startpos file changes
    6) a new campaign map
    7) researching the Nap era

    There may be a relatively easy way to do 1) above - creating new units (with different colours for, say, trousers, stripes, epaulettes, plumes etc ) based on your original 7 bifs (same ideas I had with the Lords Romans).

    Enough people understand enough of the 3 files in 2) - but it still means a lot of changes to prod11 (in fact almost a complete rewrite).

    Major changes to 3) will be required for a Nap mod 'cos it means changing almost everything in MTW so you'll need a few people working on this alone. Still, these changes can be ongoing over time as per Patrician.

    If you planning major changes as per 4), 5) and 6) then let me know. A lot of this should be relatively straightforward now.

    7) should be straightforward enough. Just a case of changing the prod files really to present more firepower and less melee differences.

    Let me know what your planning and I'll see if I can assist in some of the parts - other parts I'll be steering well clear of

    Welly
    Let me see what did you leave out ?

    Nothing

    Good


    Making the new units we can do at at a reasonable pace.
    The icons and such are not an issue really.
    That does not mean others are not welcome.
    We don't want to monopolise we just want to make it work.
    At present it's an open shop open ended project.
    How far do we want to go?
    A campaign from 1700 to 18 something
    With the major powers at the time
    France Britian_Hanover Austro_Hungarian
    Prussian Russian Spanish Turks
    you get the idea.
    As we know they all loved each other
    and like to visit regularly.

    The projects you are working on will aid this project
    no end.I'v already taken into account these factors.

    4, 5, 6 and 7
    are more the things we need help with

    Your involvement would be more than welcome
    to say the least.

    Thanks

    regards

    LK

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    Quote Originally Posted by [b
    Quote[/b] (Dramicus @ Mar. 09 2003,22:46)]Im too lazy to actually try them out, why dont you post some screens of battle?
    Bad excuse but however


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    LK,

    I'll send you an E-mail with an image or 2 (jpeg's - not too big)

    Welly

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    Those are sweet pics.

    im looking forward to this1 very mutch

    just a thought will the brittish have a "thin red line" formation or a bonus if they do? since i belive that was the standard formation.

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    My those are strange looking knights... with those sticks that make a flash, and knock a man down from across the field... sureley it is the Devil at work


    Well, if it is.. being evil has never been so good
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    Wow

    This has got to be the most promising mod I've ever seen for Medieval I always wanted someone to do this theme. Really looking forward to this one

    Lord Krazy: When do you think it will be finished?

    Also, what are you planning in the way of artillery? I would really like to see a galloper-gun (you know a horse-drawn light cannon which can move and deploy) and I think it would fit in with the time period, Is this possible?

    Thanks for such great work LK
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    Quote Originally Posted by [b
    Quote[/b] (Wellington @ Mar. 09 2003,23:10)]Because in that case you'd probably also be too lazy to look at the screen shots.
    true, true......


    LK: NICE those are SWEET, errm, maybe I should try em out....
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    err, im getting errors for all of the new inf, something to do with the actions in the texture folder...
    All i did was back up all the folders which were involved and then extracted your mod...

    help plz

    edit: and I get an error message when it starts up that says something about the english light inf being invalid, they dont show up for selection either...



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    Quote Originally Posted by [b
    Quote[/b] ]err, im getting errors for all of the new inf, something to do with the actions in the texture folder...
    All i did was back up all the folders which were involved and then extracted your mod...

    help plz

    edit: and I get an error message when it starts up that says something about the english light inf being invalid, they dont show up for selection either...
    I screwed up the directories names maybe.
    Add the file manualy for the moment.
    I'll update it soon with a few more units
    and sort out other problems such as this too.

    The files work on my pc so it should just be a directory
    problem.

    That's what you get for being lazy

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    This is what they look like.


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    just a thought but can we get some highland regiments?

    i mean plenty scotts fought for old britania in their own regiments.

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    I see the problem I gave you the wrong prod11
    just add an EnglishLightInfantry

    copy the line from the arqubusier and just change the name
    if this is too hard wait for the update

    LK

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    OOOhhhhh cool 95th rifles there LK Lol, you could have a hero Richard Sharpe (anyone else read the Bernard Cornwell novels?)

    And Knight Yellow has a point, there were a great many Scotish regiments, and a third of the British army at the time was actualy Irish

    This looks fantastic, best and most promising Mod i have seen so far.

    If you do some Imperial Guard Marmaluks I will love you for ever (well at least be happy for a while)
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    How about mamluk scots


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    Found it

    Had to use my 1337 moding skillz but I found and fixed the prob...

    you had a folder called "Actionpages" where it needed to be named "ActionsPage" .... nothing big, but it does stop the anyone from using it....
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    now cumon u know u have to have at least 1 guy with a bag pipe now or maybe a bag pipe unit -2 moral to the enemy maybe?

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    LK I am currently assisting Welly on a Holyland mod in conjunction with LMM devolopment, but if you need someone to work in Startpos/Names etc. I am your man after all you need someone to change the stuff in the "curly brackets" LOL
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    Quote Originally Posted by [b
    Quote[/b] (Dramicus @ Mar. 10 2003,16:59)]Found it

    Had to use my 1337 moding skillz but I found and fixed the prob...

    you had a folder called "Actionpages" where it needed to be named "ActionsPage" .... nothing big, but it does stop the anyone from using it....
    Well done you see your not that lazy after all.

    It was not meant for the anyones
    but I get your point.

    Your very demanding for a lazy person

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    ooohhhhhhhhhhh

    that looks awesome.. we need to play some online
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    Quote Originally Posted by [b
    Quote[/b] (Knight_Yellow @ Mar. 10 2003,17:56)]now cumon u know u have to have at least 1 guy with a bag pipe now or maybe a bag pipe unit -2 moral to the enemy maybe?
    Why just the enemy?

    A bagpipe unit could be made
    but I'm not going to as I have better things to do
    thank you.

    Like dancing cannons

    LK

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    Quote Originally Posted by [b
    Quote[/b] (Alrowan @ Mar. 10 2003,21:50)]ooohhhhhhhhhhh

    that looks awesome.. we need to play some online
    You just need someone with the same set of file.
    Ones that work that is

    I don't supose you have a map
    of Waterloo by any chance?



    SOS thanks I'll be in touch.


    LK

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    Quote Originally Posted by [b
    Quote[/b] (Brother Derfel @ Mar. 10 2003,16:29)]a third of the British army at the time was actualy Irish
    I know of the these Irish regiments
    Name followed by regiment number

    Royal Irish 18

    Inniskilling 27

    Royal County Down 86

    The Prince of Wale's Own Irish 87

    The Connaught Rangers 88

    The Prince of Wale's Tipperary 99


    His royal bla bla bla The County of Dublin 100

    The Duke of Yorks Irish regiment 101

    That's 8 out of 104 I know of
    Which is less than 10%

    This is what I know it does not mean I'm right.
    Just wondering what you base your ratio on?

    LK

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    well i got bored and changed all the european battle music to fit the Napoleonic era.. bagpipes piping, whistles blowing, drumms rolling... the whole lot. If you want it its only a small 7MB so ill see where i can dump it for download
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    Quote Originally Posted by [b
    Quote[/b] (Lord Krazy @ Mar. 10 2003,21:20)]Your very demanding for a lazy person
    ohh, now your asking for it...
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    Quote Originally Posted by [b
    Quote[/b] (Lord Krazy @ Mar. 10 2003,23:07)]
    Quote Originally Posted by [b
    Quote[/b] (Brother Derfel @ Mar. 10 2003,16:29)]a third of the British army at the time was actualy Irish
    I know of the these Irish regiments
    Name followed by regiment number

    Royal Irish 18

    Inniskilling 27

    Royal County Down 86

    The Prince of Wale's Own Irish 87

    The Connaught Rangers 88

    The Prince of Wale's Tipperary 99


    His royal bla bla bla The County of Dublin 100

    The Duke of Yorks Irish regiment 101

    That's 8 out of 104 I know of
    Which is less than 10%

    This is what I know it does not mean I'm right.
    Just wondering what you base your ratio on?

    LK
    The ratio came from the Osprey book on wellingtons infantry i think. It doesn;t just refer to the actual Irish regiments, but also the fact that a good deal of English and Scotish regiments also had irish soldiers in their ranks. Wide spread poverty in Ireland at the time forced many young men into the army of their 'hated' oppressors.....
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    Quote Originally Posted by [b
    Quote[/b] (Lord Krazy @ Mar. 10 2003,23:07)]
    Quote Originally Posted by [b
    Quote[/b] (Brother Derfel @ Mar. 10 2003,16:29)]a third of the British army at the time was actualy Irish
    I know of the these Irish regiments
    Name followed by regiment number

    Royal Irish 18

    Inniskilling 27

    Royal County Down 86

    The Prince of Wale's Own Irish 87

    The Connaught Rangers 88

    The Prince of Wale's Tipperary 99


    His royal bla bla bla The County of Dublin 100

    The Duke of Yorks Irish regiment 101

    That's 8 out of 104 I know of
    Which is less than 10%

    This is what I know it does not mean I'm right.
    Just wondering what you base your ratio on?

    LK
    LK,

    Correct, but let's not forget the cavalry -

    - 4th (Royal Irish) Dragoon Guards
    - 6th (Inniskilling) Dragoons
    - 18th King's Irish Hussars


    BD,

    Whilst there is no doubt that the numbers of Irish and Scottish soldiers (and perhaps also Welsh) who served in the British Army during the Napolionic wars was a far greater per-quota ratio for their nationalities ...

    ... the proportion of Irishmen in the British Army has NEVER approached a figure of 33% - or anything near.

    If you consider the populations of England/Wales, Ireland and Scotland during this period you'll arrive at a ratio of roughly 80:10:10 for the nationalities mentioned above.

    There is no doubt that both the Irish and Scottish contributed far greater numbers per head of population. I would suggest (very roughly speaking) an average of around -

    - 15% for Irish recruits
    - approaching 20% for Scottish recruits
    - the remaining 85% being English or Welsh

    Very commendable considering the times, but nowhere near approaching 33%

    In deference to the quality of the Irish and Scottish recruits who fought in Wellingtons armies (that is - THE Wellington - not me&#33 there is no doubt they were tough opponents and aquitted themselves well when in the brunt of it.

    Welly

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