Lazy day

[gaelic cowboy]

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So your basically trying to say some kind of proto-middle class was developing maybe????? yes/no if thats the case then I would agree in leaving Ireland out as that dynamic was not here.

Ireland has elements of the superpower chess game really if you take Spain as having an oar in it, and there is clash between the Old English and Parliament chuck in the Confederate element and to be honest twas more like Afghanistan with shifting loyalty etc and fluid alliance dynamic.