Looks like the brits are still a fine people

**HoreTore** · 11-10-2010, 18:26

Originally Posted by Rhyfelwyr

Do they plan on funding Uni's with money that doesn't exist?

Take it from the elderly, after all it's their fault we're in this mess. You could do it in a sneaky way though, with a special tax on After Eight for example....

Or the military, that's also a pure expense. But trying to save money by cutting investments as opposed to expenses is idiotic.

**Rhyfelwyr** · 11-10-2010, 18:29

Whoever caused the problem, it doesn't change the fact we have to deal with it now. How would we punish the elderly instead... they've got it bad enough already I think.

**HoreTore** · 11-10-2010, 18:38

Originally Posted by Rhyfelwyr

Whoever caused the problem, it doesn't change the fact we have to deal with it now. How would we punish the elderly instead... they've got it bad enough already I think.

The elderly will have to learn that there are consequences to their actions, there is no get out of jail card in real life.

**Rhyfelwyr** · 11-10-2010, 18:43

Meh, my Gran gets a pension of something like £90 a week, I'm not going to get upset because some student can't get another x thousands funding so he can party for another year.

Man I am in a confrontational mood today, but really, University is a joke, don't know if you read my Frontroom thread a few days ago.

**HoreTore** · 11-10-2010, 18:43

Cutting uni funding is like trying to save money by saving gas and staying home instead of driving to work. It's pure nonsense.

EDIT: Yeah, who needs teachers, engineers, nurses, etc etc....

**Rhyfelwyr** · 11-10-2010, 18:45

Depends on what they are studying at Uni. If it is a useful profession, and will help train them for a position that the job-market has a demand for, then what you say it true.

But with things like teachers etc... we have so many of them it is ridiculous, many are now having to work for nothing just to get a foot in the school system. And that's not even going into courses like Sports Medicine or Media Studies or whatever.

**HoreTore** · 11-10-2010, 18:50

Originally Posted by Rhyfelwyr

But with things like teachers etc... we have so many of them it is ridiculous, many are now having to work for nothing just to get a foot in the school system. And that's not even going into courses like Sports Medicine or Media Studies or whatever.

Send 'em over here then, there's a critical need for teachers over here... Which is the primary reason I chose to be one above the other stuff that interested me a few years ago.

I can basically pick and choose where and what I want to work with. And it'll only get worse in the future, much of the teaching staff is aging and due to retire over the next few years... IIRC we'll have a shortage of around 10.000 teachers in five years, even though recruitment is going up.

**gaelic cowboy** · 11-10-2010, 18:53

Originally Posted by HoreTore

Send 'em over here then, there's a critical need for teachers over here... Which is the primary reason I chose to be one above the other stuff that interested me a few years ago.

I can basically pick and choose where and what I want to work with. And it'll only get worse in the future, much of the teaching staff is aging and due to retire over the next few years... IIRC we'll have a shortage of around 10.000 teachers in five years, even though recruitment is going up.

Norway routinely cordons off skilled professions with red tape etc to prevent such use of skilled foreign labour your unions would never allow it.

**Tellos Athenaios** · 11-10-2010, 18:52

Your gran gets £90,- state handout a week? When I studied I could only claim €75,- a month and I am expected to pay that back in due course. Where are those thousands you speak of Rhyfelwyr? <_<

**Rhyfelwyr** · 11-10-2010, 18:56

Originally Posted by HoreTore

Send 'em over here then, there's a critical need for teachers over here... Which is the primary reason I chose to be one above the other stuff that interested me a few years ago.

I can basically pick and choose where and what I want to work with. And it'll only get worse in the future, much of the teaching staff is aging and due to retire over the next few years... IIRC we'll have a shortage of around 10.000 teachers in five years, even though recruitment is going up.

So we educate them and you profit?

Originally Posted by Tellos Athenaios

Your gran gets £90,- state handout a week? When I studied I could only claim €75,- a month and I am expected to pay that back in due course. Where are those thousands you speak of Rhyfelwyr? <_<

It's a pension so she presumably contributed some herself. Anyway, I get less than that, the point is you can still work when you are at Uni. And it's the education itself that costs thousands.

**ELITEofWARMANGINGERYBREADMEN88** · 11-11-2010, 18:40

Originally Posted by Rhyfelwyr

Depends on what they are studying at Uni. If it is a useful profession, and will help train them for a position that the job-market has a demand for, then what you say it true.

But with things like teachers etc... we have so many of them it is ridiculous, many are now having to work for nothing just to get a foot in the school system. And that's not even going into courses like Sports Medicine or Media Studies or whatever.

My brother has both a BS and a MA in History/Liberal Arts and.... He is worknig at Target's. That proves Rhy's point quite well.

Why do your Brits complain about this? We pay (I'm not,going to community college :D) $25,000 a year and your Brits pay what, only 5,000 or 10,000 a year? Give me a break. Go out and get a job you bums

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