Look - the Pope isn't evil!

[Fragony]

Did I say God didn't want people to have sex? Try reading what I wrote again, then go read the Song of Solomon, preferably while in bed with your wife!

Don't you think that's kinda creepy, not trying to mock you, but isn't that between you and your wive, why would you need anyone's aproval. Not sure what I really want to say but it just screams wrong in my face, it comes across almost as a pervertion to me. I know you don't care about that (and you shouldn't) but it sounds like church sanctioned variety of porn. Same thing but aproved, but why care about aproval when it's so easy to be forgiven.

serious question I really want to understand

[Tuuvi]

Don't you think that's kinda creepy, not trying to mock you, but isn't that between you and your wive, why would you need anyone's aproval. Not sure what I really want to say but it just screams wrong in my face, it comes across almost as a pervertion to me. I know you don't care about that (and you shouldn't) but it sounds like church sanctioned variety of porn. Same thing but aproved, but why care about aproval when it's so easy to be forgiven.

serious question I really want to understand

I've heard that the Song of Solomon is a bit controversial among different denominations, some say it's scripture, some don't, and some grudgingly accept it as an allegory of God's love.

When I got to that part of the Bible I skipped it because my church says it isn't inspired scripture so I didn't bother reading it, but I did glance at it and it didn't seem to be that pornographic to me, it just seemed like any other love poem.

[Philippus Flavius Homovallumus]

Philipvs Vallindervs Calicvla tops it off with what happens after the City of Sodom and the loss of Jobs' wife.

I have sex with my daughter while drunk?

Eh?

Don't you think that's kinda creepy, not trying to mock you, but isn't that between you and your wive, why would you need anyone's aproval. Not sure what I really want to say but it just screams wrong in my face, it comes across almost as a pervertion to me. I know you don't care about that (and you shouldn't) but it sounds like church sanctioned variety of porn. Same thing but aproved, but why care about aproval when it's so easy to be forgiven.

serious question I really want to understand

Yes, it would be wierd, but my point was that the Bible even contains porn, because it is a book which comprehensively reflects human experience. I was being a bit flippant, but it's a fair question you have asked, so I will try to answer.

A Christian is supposed to love God first, so as a Christian you actually look for that in a partner. I can see how from a secular perspective that seems wierd, to actually seek out someone who will always put you second to something apparently abstract and arbitary. Personally though, I find the idea of someone who is totally devoted to their faith still making a place for me in their life very alluring.

It's a different kind of love, but I would not call it "creepy".

I've heard that the Song of Solomon is a bit controversial among different denominations, some say it's scripture, some don't, and some grudgingly accept it as an allegory of God's love.

When I got to that part of the Bible I skipped it because my church says it isn't inspired scripture so I didn't bother reading it, but I did glance at it and it didn't seem to be that pornographic to me, it just seemed like any other love poem.

Interesting that your denomination does not accept the Song of Solomon/Song of Songs/Canticles - it is generally considered to be canonical.

It is also quite graphic, I respectfully suggest that your Bible may have toned it down in translation.

[Tuuvi]

Interesting that your denomination does not accept the Song of Solomon/Song of Songs/Canticles - it is generally considered to be canonical.

It is also quite graphic, I respectfully suggest that your Bible may have toned it down in translation.

Well we use the KJV, I don't know if that one was toned down or not. And I only glanced at it so I could be wrong.

[Philippus Flavius Homovallumus]

Well we use the KJV, I don't know if that one was toned down or not. And I only glanced at it so I could be wrong.

The KJV is an outdated and politically biased translation known for obscuring sexual themes, among other sins.

It should be rejected on the grounds that we know it's manuscript witnesses were poor if nothing else - as we now have much better ones.

[Rhyfelwyr]

The KJV is an outdated and politically biased translation known for obscuring sexual themes, among other sins.

It should be rejected on the grounds that we know it's manuscript witnesses were poor if nothing else - as we now have much better ones.

KJV only-ism is the way to go!

Nah, I'm kidding. As for the Song of Solomon, I agree it should just be read for what it is. I've heard a lot of people say it is representative of God's relationship with the church or Israel, but there's not really any reason to think that.

[Philippus Flavius Homovallumus]

KJV only-ism is the way to go!

Nah, I'm kidding. As for the Song of Solomon, I agree it should just be read for what it is. I've heard a lot of people say it is representative of God's relationship with the church or Israel, but there's not really any reason to think that.

Yeah... that'd be wierd, wouldn't it?