This Week's Evil Islam Thread

**Fragony** · 11-23-2010, 12:50

You just got to respect that, gutmensch knows it simply isn't true

**rory_20_uk** · 11-23-2010, 12:56

It should be policy that all adults involved with this and are foreign nationals are immediately fined and then deported. Those with a dual passport loose their UK passport. All are banned for life.

There are many places in the globe this poison is allowed. The UK should not be one of them.

Of course what will happen is basically... nothing. A few will be closed down and re-open elsewhere. The Saudis will shuffle their feet a bit and mumble some drivel about how it wasn't their fault and not even their books... OK, they were their books but they didn't know... OK, they did know but it was a mistake... OK, it was intentional but enough time has dragged by for no one to care any more. Perhaps some consular staff will be shuffled around.

**al Roumi** · 11-23-2010, 14:04

Originally Posted by Fragony

You just got to respect that, gutmensch knows it simply isn't true

This is clearly unacceptable. [Edit: to be clear, I don't mean your post, rather the subject of the thread!]

I admit my first thought was "lets keep this in perpective", but 5000 students is a lot of people to poison with this rot. My google fu has failed me in finding (recent) statistics on independant faith schools in Britain. It would be interesting to know how big a chunk of the independant Islamic sector this represents. I also know bugger-all about the governance of independant schools, or what powers there are to limit this kind of hideous curriculum.

Re the Saudis, I can quite imagine that this does have nothing to do with the Saudi government, it's most likely to be some sort of charity. Plus, the Saudis govt is really only bothered about what happens at home and not so much about the country's non-petroleum based exports.

**rory_20_uk** · 11-23-2010, 14:17

OFSTEAD has no clout over out of school activities, so they're pretty much free to do what they want. It is hardly going to get onto the Police's radar as it is "merely" indoctrination rather than anything else. In all seriousness, it falls best under MI5's purview as it is a long term, strategic problem, rather than here and now.

I think that the percentage is irrelevant. All involved should be shipped off. If that's one person then so be it. If it's 2,000 involved then equally get rid of them. Just to be clear: I am against the content, not the religion. If there are any Christians, Jews, Hindus, or Jedis doing this then they should get the same treatment.

**gaelic cowboy** · 11-23-2010, 14:25

You need to licence your own Imams and print there books for them with plenty unannounced inspections to ensure there not teaching Islamofacism.

Deportation does not seem to me to be a solution at all not that these loons should not be sent home but what if the fella is an English convert.

**Fragony** · 11-23-2010, 14:28

Originally Posted by alh_p

This is clearly unacceptable. [Edit: to be clear, I don't mean your post, rather the subject of the thread!]

I admit my first thought was "lets keep this in perpective", but 5000 students is a lot of people to poison with this rot. My google fu has failed me in finding (recent) statistics on independant faith schools in Britain. It would be interesting to know how big a chunk of the independant Islamic sector this represents. I also know bugger-all about the governance of independant schools, or what powers there are to limit this kind of hideous curriculum.

Re the Saudis, I can quite imagine that this does have nothing to do with the Saudi government, it's most likely to be some sort of charity. Plus, the Saudis govt is really only bothered about what happens at home and not so much about the country's non-petroleum based exports.

Hard to get numbers because of a loop in British law, they can't inspect these schools as they are privately funded.

**Fragony** · 11-23-2010, 18:09

Little update on arrests, they discussed their plan on internet these are just mountaingoats who misjumped their mountain.

**al Roumi** · 11-23-2010, 18:27

Originally Posted by alh_p

I also know bugger-all about the governance of independant schools, or what powers there are to limit this kind of hideous curriculum.

Also, the powers used to actually address this now are probably those free-speech limiting "incitement to hatred and violence" ones...

**Fragony** · 11-23-2010, 18:40

Originally Posted by alh_p

Also, the powers used to actually address this now are probably those free-speech limiting "incitement to hatred and violence" ones...

Well these powers are simply the word populist, or anything else that calls you morally inferior. Most muslims are really nice people and it matters nothing to me that they are a bit intolerant from a Dutch perspective. But this goes way beyond my tolerance. I also don't think they really want this.

**HoreTore** · 11-23-2010, 20:05

Europe finally has a school that is teaching something other than liberal hogwash, and the conservatives are mad about it....?

**Fragony** · 11-23-2010, 21:13

That's not clever that's an ultra-conservative reflex.

**Furunculus** · 12-03-2010, 13:27

Originally Posted by HoreTore

Europe finally has a school that is teaching something other than liberal hogwash, and the conservatives are mad about it....?

and conservatives find it odd that liberals actively supported the mechanisms that encourage the propgation of extremist material in British schools, when no good liberal worth his salt believes in such nasty things themselves, or would approve of acquaintences who hold such views.

but somehow, when its somebody else outside your immediate circle, and it involves different coloured people, we can write it off as multi-culturalism!