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    Quote Originally Posted by alh_p View Post
    No, the reason it is (or should be!) frowned upon is because the labeling of an entire religion -and by association the entire range of its adherents- demonstrates ignorance of its different interpretations.

    As Hax has helpfully outlined, there is no single monolithic interpretation of Islam -and there is a real multitude of views within it. As ever, it's the bad bits that get picked up and denounced -which I think is right to do, but it is absolutely wrong to surmise that the whole of Islam is thus.
    If each time the reaction when such news comes out has to be "but not all muslims are like that", then you are at least giving the impression of being an apologist. Sure, you didn't say that you agree with children getting this kind of "education", but it wouldn't hurt if you would first start with explicity condemning this and then ask people to be careful not to think all muslims are like that.

    Maybe it's not your intention, but this is exactly the kind of reaction I'm getting enough of. It comes accros as apologising, trying to divert attention away from this unacceptable event and making people scared to be labeled as "racist muslim haters" when they're rightfully disgusted by something as children being indoctrinated to hate non-muslims.

    In fact, by constantly addressing this kind of issues like this, people will start becoming racist muslim haters for real.

    I don't know if I explained myself well. It's a subtle mechanism that comes accross as a waving finger and a "don't you dare say something negative about Islam or you're a racist".

    Being disgusted by this news about indoctrination of children is not the same as labelling all muslims as evil. In fact, it is in the best interests of the muslims to not tolerate this.

    Just like Catholic pedophile priests should be locked up and the key thrown away, these people indoctrinating those children to start hating non-muslims should be locked up as well. Period, end of story. And no unnecessary drama over it.

    Doing the ""people should not use this to label all muslims as evil and blahblahblah" and in the meanwhile ignoring the issue at hand"- thingy is doing a disservice to exactly the majority of muslims you are trying to defend.

    I also fail to see the relevance of this or that interpretation of Islam. The issue is: children are being indoctrinated to hate people of different religions. That's what we are talking about. You may find the fact that this particular case of indoctrination is organised by some Islamic group inconvenient, but that's how it is. Now, instead of going defensive and "defend Islam against teh evil racists", it would be better to open your eyes and see what is happening. Then act on it.

    EDIT: I also fail to see the relevance for this thread to know who won which war. I thought history was for the Monastery.
    Last edited by Andres; 11-26-2010 at 15:12.
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