This Week's Evil Islam Thread

[Crazed Rabbit]

An evil Islam thread? I like this idea... kind of a one-stop-shop for all the awful things going on in the Islamic world instead of countless threads every week. This ought to be stickied as I don't see it running short on content any time soon.

Feds: Somali-born teen plotted car-bombing in Ore.

I wonder how much of that was the FBI pushing him. It seems like a lot of their terror busts are where the FBI informant was the main force behind encouraging an attack.

CR

[Fragony]

Leftist insanity du jour, immigrant kids systematicaly get higher marks. Just because.

Owwwwwwwww the leftist church and their ideals

edit Wait, even equality isn't 100% equal, Turks get 0.6 on tops because they are Turkish, Marrocans only get 0.4 for free over Dutchies.

ES MUSS SEIN

[Louis VI the Fat]

Frag - link or it doesn't exist.

I wonder how much of that was the FBI pushing him. It seems like a lot of their terror busts are where the FBI informant was the main force behind encouraging an attack.

Good point. This terrorist was an easily impressionable teenager. Even normal friends without an explicit agenda can turn an otherwise fine young man into an emo goth with a girly purse and black lipstick.

[Fragony]

Frag - link or it doesn't exist.


Good point. This terrorist was an easily impressionable teenager. Even normal friends without an explicit agenda can turn an otherwise fine young man into an emo goth with a girly purse and black lipstick.

Why doubt me, it's true. Link is Dutch but fine http://www.elsevier.mobi/pl/svt/si/e...5966/pa/159497 The crave got really bad

[HoreTore]

Leftist insanity du jour, immigrant kids systematicaly get higher marks. Just because.

I don't know about your country, but this leftie works at a school with 40% immigrants and gives no higher marks to any group.

[Fragony]

I don't know about your country, but this leftie works at a school with 40% immigrants and gives no higher marks to any group.

Yeah sure but here they do, the equality DEMANDS

[Louis VI the Fat]

Why doubt me, it's true.

It's not about doubt, it is about sources.

Event X. Person A relates X to B. B relates A's version of X to C. C's version of X will now already be incomprehensible to those familiar with the original X.

Links in the Backroom to substantiate claims, or else there's no serious discussion.

[Fragony]

It's not about doubt, it is about sources.

Event X. Person A relates X to B. B relates A's version of X to C. C's version of X will now already be incomprehensible to those familiar with the original X.

Links in the Backroom to substantiate claims, or else there's no serious discussion.

You have gotten a source, learn Dutch if you want to read it, you might even get some bonuspoints for just trying, but a paintjob is probably going to give you that boost up anyway

[Louis VI the Fat]

You have gotten a source, learn Dutch if you want to read it, you might even get some bonuspoints for just trying, but a paintjob is probably going to give you that boost up anyway

Dutch is easy for anybody who's mastered English or German. Also, a link in any language is better than no links. (See: Tribesman)

Meanwhile I spend a fine fifteen minutes quickly reading through this article:

Moroccan pupils in the Netherlands get punished more by their teacher than white pupils:
http://tue.academia.edu/PerrydenBrok...ic_Backgrounds

Because the students are little pests? Yes, they are. But there are mechanisms at work why they should behave like that, why the teacher-pupil interaction should be the way it is. Dutch schools are far from culture neutral indeed.

[Furunculus]

Europe finally has a school that is teaching something other than liberal hogwash, and the conservatives are mad about it....?

and conservatives find it odd that liberals actively supported the mechanisms that encourage the propgation of extremist material in British schools, when no good liberal worth his salt believes in such nasty things themselves, or would approve of acquaintences who hold such views.

but somehow, when its somebody else outside your immediate circle, and it involves different coloured people, we can write it off as multi-culturalism!

[Fragony]

Dutch is easy for anybody who's mastered English or German. Also, a link in any language is better than no links. (See: Tribesman)

Meanwhile I spend a fine fifteen minutes quickly reading through this article:

Moroccan pupils in the Netherlands get punished more by their teacher than white pupils:
http://tue.academia.edu/PerrydenBrok...ic_Backgrounds

Because the students are little pests? Yes, they are. But there are mechanisms at work why they should behave like that, why the teacher-pupil interaction should be the way it is. Dutch schools are far from culture neutral indeed.

Not our fault, they are less intelligent because of consistant inbreeding. Most are really really dumb, they are simply too stupid, the odd one that isn't a retard has great prospects.

[HoreTore]

Not our fault, they are less intelligent because of consistant inbreeding. Most are really really dumb, they are simply too stupid, the odd one that isn't a retard has great prospects.

...............

[Strike For The South]

Frag - link or it doesn't exist.


Good point. This terrorist was an easily impressionable teenager. Even normal friends without an explicit agenda can turn an otherwise fine young man into an emo goth with a girly purse and black lipstick.

Like the first time an older French gentleman sedueced me with his giant


I agree

Not our fault, they are less intelligent because of consistant inbreeding. Most are really really dumb, they are simply too stupid, the odd one that isn't a retard has great prospects.

lulz

[Banquo's Ghost]

Let me be very clear: Blatant racism is against forum rules.

If you wish to make a point against whole racial or national groups, at the very least back it up with research or statistics. Unsubstantiated generalisations are a sign of feeble thinking and unwelcome on this board when insulting entire groups.

[PanzerJaeger]

I wonder how much of that was the FBI pushing him. It seems like a lot of their terror busts are where the FBI informant was the main force behind encouraging an attack.

CR

I wouldn't doubt that the feds took this right up to the edge of entrapment, but he still pushed the button.

[Hax]

You have gotten a source, learn Dutch if you want to read it

Interestingly, the same logic that Muslim scholars use when it comes to analysing the Qur'an.

[Fragony]

Interestingly, the same logic that Muslim scholars use when it comes to analysing the Qur'an.

It's a shield of authority having to consult them, but it's pretty clear what it says.

[Hax]

It's a shield of authority having to consult them, but it's pretty clear what it says.

Uuh, right. That doesn't explain why there are four different schools of jurisprudence.

[Beskar]

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Is that a forum bug that your text is appearing Pink to me even though you specified Dark Green?

[Feel free to move this to watchtower/whatever]

Related note: I approve of BQ's message. Bigotry isn't wanted here.

[Banquo's Ghost]

It may be because I left a hash in there. It's now removed. Are things still pink?

[Louis VI the Fat]

It may be because I left a hash in there. It's now removed. Are things still pink?

What pink? The page seems to work perfectly fine for me. All in black, with the exception of the little intervention in green.

[Fragony]

Uuh, right. That doesn't explain why there are four different schools of jurisprudence.

Illeteracy, makes it easy. Ask the imam.

[Beskar]

Illeteracy, makes it easy. Ask the imam.

Ask the Catholic church. It is why they didn't want the bibles translated.

[rory_20_uk]

"Didn't want" is hardly a strong enough term. "Tried to torture and kill anyone who even suggested it for centuries" is more accurate.

[Fragony]

Ask the Catholic church. It is why they didn't want the bibles translated.

Gutenberg says anything to you. Reflex anyway, if you insist on comparing christanity with the islam you only show that you know nothing about either.

[Beskar]

Gutenberg says anything to you. Reflex anyway, if you insist on comparing christanity with the islam you only show that you know nothing about either.

All religions are the same.

[Fragony]

All religions are the same.

No that's bull, islam is both a stateform (well not really a state, but a political ideoligy) and a religion. Christianity is set in society, islam dictates society. Not a particular fan of either mind you, all religions are pretty much equal in the amount of patience I have for the religious, being somewhat less patient with muslims comes naturally cause they whine more.

[rory_20_uk]

Christianity doesn't set society, but it used to and it wasn't a power that was given up easily. Islam is more entrenched at the moment.

Muslims complain about being discriminated on the West. There was one on TV last night stating this. He was dressed in a cap, a long beard and wore robes. Of course the fact he's not bothered to integrate at all is not a factor of the discrimination... The other elephant in the room is the utter lack of equality of religions in so many Islamic countries. When other religions can convert people there in the way Muslims can over here then we can have a chat. As it stands you are in deep trouble possessing a bible.

[HoreTore]

Christianity doesn't set society, but it used to and it wasn't a power that was given up easily. Islam is more entrenched at the moment.

Muslims complain about being discriminated on the West. There was one on TV last night stating this. He was dressed in a cap, a long beard and wore robes. Of course the fact he's not bothered to integrate at all is not a factor of the discrimination... The other elephant in the room is the utter lack of equality of religions in so many Islamic countries. When other religions can convert people there in the way Muslims can over here then we can have a chat. As it stands you are in deep trouble possessing a bible.

Islam isn't missionary.

[Beskar]

No that's bull, islam is both a stateform (well not really a state, but a political ideoligy) and a religion. Christianity is set in society, islam dictates society. Not a particular fan of either mind you, all religions are pretty much equal in the amount of patience I have for the religious, being somewhat less patient with muslims comes naturally cause they whine more.

No it isn't. Christianity was heavily dictating society (see: Inquisition and various references) and is very much political ideology, even having a big influence today (See: American politics). So anything you say Islam does, Christainity has done, at least historically. Same for the Hindu religion and many others.

It is just the natural traits of religion, and it is not just 'Islam', it is all religions. They are all used as means of control and power.

On other notes, many muslims are as religious as catholics I know. They just went through some service as a kid, and just call themselves Muslim/Catholic for the rest of their lives. But for some reason, you attack these as well just because of the label of 'Muslim'.

It is would be more correct to be attacking "aggressive religion"which includes all the bad bits of Islam, and all the bad bits from Christian Fundamentalism as well. All your examples are not just unique within Islam, they are elsewhere as well.

I am against all aggressive religions, I don't cherry pick the 'sensationalist pick of the hour' which Islam pretty much falls under since 9/11.