Elder Scrolls V: "Soon"

[Greyblades]

I allways thought the cites were way too small, the imperial city would be lucky to be considered a large hamlet in the real world.

[lars573]

I allways thought the cites were way too small, the imperial city would be lucky to be considered a large hamlet in the real world.

Modern world maybe. In a medieval setting like the ES series they would actually be cities/towns. It's the same in Morrowind. The largest cities of Vivec and Mounrhold have at most a few hundred inhabitants. It's a technical consideration. Vivec for example has 9 cantons, with an average of 50 NPC's living in them.

[Greyblades]

Few hundred? The imperial city didn't have much more than 150. I wouldn't mind if it was just any city but this is supposed to be the capital of an empire that employs a standing army of legions.

[lars573]

Legions who's total establishment is a few dozen. See thing is in Morrowind you could go and see said legions. There was a fort next to every city and large town. Each fort was supposed to be a Legion's base. And they each had about a dozen legionaries in them.

[rajpoot]

The number of soldiers and NPCs was actually very unrealistic. In Oblivion, during the quest to close the great gate at Bruma, there weren't more than dozen or so soldiers all considered as far as I remember. And that was supposed to be a big epic battle, for which the player character gets their own statue. Looked more like a back alley gang fight.
Still, I doubt that'll change in Skyrim. It's a technical limitation. Like a TW game can't having a hundred thousand soldiers in a battle.

[Greyblades]

Legions who's total establishment is a few dozen. See thing is in Morrowind you could go and see said legions. There was a fort next to every city and large town. Each fort was supposed to be a Legion's base. And they each had about a dozen legionaries in them.

Yeah but that could be excused as only one legion spread thin all over morrowind, most of the other legions could be running round in the other countries in the continent.

[lars573]

Except it's not, when you join the Imperial legions in Morrowind they tell you straight up that all the legions (plural) are full up. The legion commanders all tell you to go and see the commanding general of the The Deathshead Legion based in Gnisis, his legion is under strength. Each fort is the base for 1 legion. The ES games work on a smaller reductive scale than TW games do.

[Greyblades]

Wow... how the heck did they get to the crossbows and full steel armor level of tech without so much as getting more than 4-5 thousand people in the entire world?
Allthough now that I think about it with all the daemon and monster attacks that plague tamriel the question probably should be "how the heck did they get to crossbows and steel armo without dieing off?"

[lars573]

Like I said it's like how in total war a regiment in Empire is around the size of a real world company or squadron. Or a cohort in Rome is the size of a centuria or maniple. Depending on where you set the unit sizes. Or the cities in Rome having 25000 for a huge city. ES has this to a larger extreme due to the way the game is built.

[Greyblades]

Uh actually I was basing legion sizes on 1000 soldiers apiece as per what my primary school's history lessons told me, having multiple thousands of troops when you dont even have 1 thousand at home seems odd to me.

[johnhughthom]

Uh actually I was basing legion sizes on 1000 soldiers apiece as per what my primary school's history lessons told me, having multiple thousands of troops when you dont even have 1 thousand at home seems odd to me.

A Roman Legion was just over four thousand strong at full strength.

[Husar]

The problem is, if you take realistic amounts of humans, you either get a dia show, or they all look like triangles, especially with the hardware available at the time Morrowind was released.
Also keep in mind that to make it realistic, you'd need more houses, people wpould complain about having to walk half an hour through that imperial city just to get to the next point of a quest etc.
Plus, most people just don't seem to care a whole lot the way it is now.

[Greyblades]

A Roman Legion was just over four thousand strong at full strength.

And wikipedia says 6000, seems I was way off the mark.

[lars573]

The problem is, if you take realistic amounts of humans, you either get a dia show, or they all look like triangles, especially with the hardware available at the time Morrowind was released.
Also keep in mind that to make it realistic, you'd need more houses, people wpould complain about having to walk half an hour through that imperial city just to get to the next point of a quest etc.
Plus, most people just don't seem to care a whole lot the way it is now.

Truly. If the Imperial city was of a realistic size for what it's supposed to be, Rome in the 4th Century. It would have covered half of the square kilometrage of Cyrodill.

[rajpoot]

TES V preview at IGN. Some details about gameplay, dragons and interactions.

IGN: Finally, a few silly questions. Is there a unicorn in Skyrim?

Todd Howard: That's DLC. For a hundred dollars.

IGN: Can you ride dragons in Skyrim?

Todd Howard: Not in the way you're asking.

Can you levitate in Skyrim?

Todd Howard: Another DLC. Three hundred dollars.

[Mailman653]

10 Reasons Skyrim Will Be the Best Elder Scrolls Game Yet

[Motep]

10 Reasons Skyrim Will Be the Best Elder Scrolls Game Yet

My complaints are addressed. I want to play this.

[Tuuvi]

Yes Skyrim is gonna be so awesome I can't wait.

[Krusader]

Seems like I'll buy it for PS3 this time around.

[Skullheadhq]

Seems like I'll buy it for PS3 this time around.

Same here, don't know if my computer will be able to handle it.

[Drunk Clown]

I've heard it said so many times that Oblivion was developed with the Xbox dev kit and ported to PC and PS that I stopped counting. And a great many multi-platform games in the last 4-5 years have been developed that way. For me playing Fallout 3 on the PC I had to open pip boy every time I wanted to switch weapons. Mostly because I can't for the life of me figure out the quick switch command.

I know this has been posted some 10 months ago, but haven't found an answer further in the thread. You can set the weapons just on 1, 2, 3 etc. (NB. not numpad).

Now as I'm a big fan of The Elder Scrolls I'm really starting to like Skyrim. I got that much in the mood to play TES that I've installed Oblivion again. However it was more beautiful in my memory (as always), eventhough my PC at that time couldn't handle it. Now I read some guys talking about mods for Oblivion; can you suggest some good mods? Perhaps visual enhancing mods? Other suggestions?

For the PC users: Do you also have occasional framedrops to 25 FPS in Oblivion eventhough your system can run Fallout 3 with ease (70 FPS on average)?

Also I find it funny that people here prefer magic above melee weapons. I never got into destruction; I find it quite weak to be honest (Conjuration on the other hand...). But maybe I'm wrong, I'm probably not the greatest expert in TES.

http://www.gametrailers.com/video/to...xtended/713229
http://www.gametrailers.com/video/todd-howard-gt-tv-extended/713231

[Husar]

I just saw an interview with a developer who talked about the new features like day and night cycles, changing weather and NPCs who do a daily routine other than standing around in different places.
I had to laugh hard because Gothic already had all three features in 2000, now it's 2011 and Bethesda is finally catching up.

I'm curious how the game will turn out but such features aren't a great new addition, they were simply lacking in their previous games.

[rajpoot]

I'm curious how the game will turn out but such features aren't a great new addition, they were simply lacking in their previous games.

Actually as far as I can remember in Oblivion people went to different places during different times of the day (though mostly they just went and sat in different places) and then they all returned to their homes during the night, so the actual addition will only be that now the player too will be able to participate and do what the NPCs do, like farming and woodcutting.

Anyway good games from the genre of Elder Scrolls are so rare that this game is going to sell like hotcakes even if it (worst case scenario) turns out to be a complete rehash of Oblivion.

[lars573]

Oblivions day/night NPC cycle was stand in the place where I work, go somewhere and eat, then bed.

I know this has been posted some 10 months ago, but haven't found an answer further in the thread. You can set the weapons just on 1, 2, 3 etc. (NB. not numpad).

I solved the problem by buying a new Xbox and a copy of the complete Fallout 3 collection.

[Mailman653]

The Interrogation Room: The Elder Scrolls V: Skyrim

[Krusader]

Consoles to be lead platform for Skyrim

Not surprised and which is why I'm pre-ordering it for the PS3. I'm actually worried its gonna be a Xbox 360-focused game, and part of me wonders if buying PS3 back in the fall was so wise :P

[rajpoot]

Consoles to be lead platform for Skyrim

Not again......

[Monk]

Consoles to be lead platform for Skyrim

Well I guess I won't be buying Skyrim. What is it with Bethesda being constantly unable to take my money? Oh well.

[Fragony]

Not again......

Oh relax you get the awesome mods

AND IT GOT DRAGONS

[Centurion1]

i enjoyed playing oblivion on my 360 no worries about hardware or slow play.

mods are what appeal about comp and if the games as good as they hype it who cares.