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    Sadly, there wasn't as much help to get from you guys as I thought....
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    Inequality in wealth so long as it doesn't become self destructive to the society is a necessary evil needed to provoke otherwise apathetic people to do work so they don't lose their current standard of living.

    Inequality of opportunity? Never.


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    Quote Originally Posted by a completely inoffensive name View Post
    Inequality of opportunity? Never.
    Always??

    My vision is dreadful - I want to fly a plane!
    I'm a diabetic on insulin - I want to drive an ambulance!
    I'm blind - I want to be a surgeon!
    I've got Hep C and HIV - I want to be a surgeon!

    There are some things that some people can't do - and to do them would be a great danger to the rest of us.

    If you mean equal opportunity in the sense that there are entry requirements and those that are admitted are those that achieved greater than were stipulated - female fire-fighters is fine as long as they are strong enough to do the job for example. But it still means that from birther there are many activities that some will never be able to undertake.

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    Quote Originally Posted by rory_20_uk View Post
    Always??

    My vision is dreadful - I want to fly a plane!
    I'm a diabetic on insulin - I want to drive an ambulance!
    I'm blind - I want to be a surgeon!
    I've got Hep C and HIV - I want to be a surgeon!

    There are some things that some people can't do - and to do them would be a great danger to the rest of us.

    If you mean equal opportunity in the sense that there are entry requirements and those that are admitted are those that achieved greater than were stipulated - female fire-fighters is fine as long as they are strong enough to do the job for example. But it still means that from birther there are many activities that some will never be able to undertake.

    I meant equal opportunity in that if you are capable of doing it then you have the opportunity to do it. No social restrictions. Obviously the blind can't fly our planes.

    No socially accepted inequality of opportunity beyond obviously the physical predispositions we are born with (or I guess with diseases, acquire). I didn't think that needed to be said, I would have thought that I have portrayed myself as a pragmatist by now in this forum.

    EDIT: An example of this would be those studies I hear every so often where otherwise extremely talented candidates for a job are turned away for someone else qualified simply because they had a "black" sounding name.
    http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2003/...in575685.shtml
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    Quote Originally Posted by a completely inoffensive name View Post
    I meant equal opportunity in that if you are capable of doing it then you have the opportunity to do it. No social restrictions. Obviously the blind can't fly our planes.

    what seems so 'obvious' is often very difficult to draft into law in a coherent way that meets the objective desired by the proposer.......
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    Quote Originally Posted by Furunculus View Post
    what seems so 'obvious' is often very difficult to draft into law in a coherent way that meets the objective desired by the proposer.......
    Only if the proposer himself is not coherent. Many subjects can be successfully legislated on, but there is always an opposition party that nit picks it apart to the point it becomes more ineffective.


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    Quote Originally Posted by rory_20_uk View Post
    Always??

    My vision is dreadful - I want to fly a plane!
    I'm a diabetic on insulin - I want to drive an ambulance!
    I'm blind - I want to be a surgeon!
    I've got Hep C and HIV - I want to be a surgeon!

    There are some things that some people can't do - and to do them would be a great danger to the rest of us.

    If you mean equal opportunity in the sense that there are entry requirements and those that are admitted are those that achieved greater than were stipulated - female fire-fighters is fine as long as they are strong enough to do the job for example. But it still means that from birther there are many activities that some will never be able to undertake.
    Equality of opportunity is meaning those who are equally qualified have an equal chance. Not in-equal because they are black, gay, etc and other conditions which do not affect the qualification of their application. Your first statements are deliberately dumb, I know you know better then that.
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    Sorry, sorry - slow day at work and bored stiff. Being obtuse is a form of release...

    An enemy that wishes to die for their country is the best sort to face - you both have the same aim in mind.
    Science flies you to the moon, religion flies you into buildings.
    "If you can't trust the local kleptocrat whom you installed by force and prop up with billions of annual dollars, who can you trust?" Lemur
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    Quote Originally Posted by Beskar View Post
    Equality of opportunity is meaning those who are equally qualified have an equal chance. Not in-equal because they are black, gay, etc and other conditions which do not affect the qualification of their application. Your first statements are deliberately dumb, I know you know better then that.
    This is the more hostile version of what I just said.


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