@Louis, wouldn't you agree that legalising it is more worse a cure? So many traps, so little change. All you will ultimately do is admitting that pot-smokers aren't evil. Just relax things a bit, shade of grey would do lovely
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@Louis, wouldn't you agree that legalising it is more worse a cure? So many traps, so little change. All you will ultimately do is admitting that pot-smokers aren't evil. Just relax things a bit, shade of grey would do lovely
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The main job of the DEA is to increase in size and reach. If things are legalised they have less to do. If they can have a new department that can research new things to ban well, they're making work for themselves for years to come!
By describing it as a war, the DEA has vastly more powers than if it were viewed as a social problem and led by medics or social workers for example.
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But drugs are mere currency, can't just change that. Legalising it could bite you in the butt really hard, flooding of the market with much much worse. Just accept there is such a thing as a shadow-economy, can't fight it
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I disagree with that argument.
If there are already most of the things that people want in a pure, controlled form then why push for something else?
During prohibition, people wanted the things they had had before, and when prohibition ended they continued drinking it, not immediately went onto the next illegal substance.
An enemy that wishes to die for their country is the best sort to face - you both have the same aim in mind.
Science flies you to the moon, religion flies you into buildings.
"If you can't trust the local kleptocrat whom you installed by force and prop up with billions of annual dollars, who can you trust?" Lemur
If you're not a liberal when you're 25, you have no heart. If you're not a conservative by the time you're 35, you have no brain.
The best argument against democracy is a five minute talk with the average voter. Winston Churchill
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Sure but if you take what is, and compare it to what could happen, why do it. Because you get to say it's legal? It's really more trouble than it's worth, almost every male American smoked it, and at least one didn't enhale it, it's fine as it is.Originally Posted by rory_20_uk
I disagree with that argument.
If there are already most of the things that people want in a pure, controlled form then why push for something else?
During prohibition, people wanted the things they had had before, and when prohibition ended they continued drinking it, not immediately went onto the next illegal substance.
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I think that having laws that are not enforced is a lot of confusion for everyone: what if a police officer arrests everyone who possesses it as he disagrees with it? It is a crime after all. Is there a limit on the amount someone has? It's illegal, so unless dealers return home after every few grams they might get busted. Can children smoke / eat it? It's illegal for everyone so difficult to draw lines. Purity varies, but how does one enforce if it's all illegal?
Better to get all this and more sorted out once so everyone knows where they stand. There might be a cost to the bill, but when reallocation of officers and tax on businesses seling the substances are factored in, it'd make money very quickly.
An enemy that wishes to die for their country is the best sort to face - you both have the same aim in mind.
Science flies you to the moon, religion flies you into buildings.
"If you can't trust the local kleptocrat whom you installed by force and prop up with billions of annual dollars, who can you trust?" Lemur
If you're not a liberal when you're 25, you have no heart. If you're not a conservative by the time you're 35, you have no brain.
The best argument against democracy is a five minute talk with the average voter. Winston Churchill
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This stuff put me on my ass the one time I smoked space/k2
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But laws are just ignored all the time, if getting caught doesn't mean all that much it's pretty much legalised, without all the complications.I think that having laws that are not enforced is a lot of confusion for everyone: what if a police officer arrests everyone who possesses it as he disagrees with it? It is a crime after all. Is there a limit on the amount someone has? It's illegal, so unless dealers return home after every few grams they might get busted. Can children smoke / eat it? It's illegal for everyone so difficult to draw lines. Purity varies, but how does one enforce if it's all illegal?
Better to get all this and more sorted out once so everyone knows where they stand. There might be a cost to the bill, but when reallocation of officers and tax on businesses seling the substances are factored in, it'd make money very quickly.
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