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    Default Re: The continuing battle against the inevitable Euro area default

    Quote Originally Posted by Philipvs Vallindervs Calicvla View Post
    Right - you're not an historian.

    He's saying that we can backslide - there's no garentee that Greece will remain a democracy, or that her economy will recover to pre-crisis levels.

    Look at Zimbabwe, once capable of feeding all of Africa but in the space of the rule of one man it has become utterly destitute, the people starving and the economy useless and effectively shrinking as inflation rises. Or how about Iran - 60 years ago it was essentially a fully Westernised country until the Americans and British overthrew the elected government.

    Hell, look at Somalia in 1982 and 1992.

    You know what? just look at the Former Yugoslavia.

    That CAN happen in Greece, that's the point.
    Yes, it can happen to Greece, it can happen to US, it can happen to Australia, it can happen to Brazil, it can happen to Monaco...

    If that's all he wanted to say, he shouldn't have even opened his mouth. Yes, water is wet, two plus two is four, thank you very much, move along.

    It comes to his reasoning. He's arguing how Greece is being forced to do something by outside influence and he use it as an argument against EU/euro. He conveniently forgets that's something all world/regional powers (Britain included) have been doing for ages and still are doing. Every election in Serbia, including the last one a few weeks ago, there's a ton of guys from US, Britain, France, Germany etc... saying which candidates are preferred by them.

    That's a minor example, I don't need to mention cases of supporting political or even military groups, various (N)GO's, etc etc...

    And he chose THIS as an example of big countries meddling in (un)democratic processes in other countries??? Thank you, Boris, it was a real eye opener...

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    Default Re: The continuing battle against the inevitable Euro area default

    Quote Originally Posted by Sarmatian View Post
    Yes, it can happen to Greece, it can happen to US, it can happen to Australia, it can happen to Brazil, it can happen to Monaco...

    If that's all he wanted to say, he shouldn't have even opened his mouth. Yes, water is wet, two plus two is four, thank you very much, move along.

    It comes to his reasoning. He's arguing how Greece is being forced to do something by outside influence and he use it as an argument against EU/euro. He conveniently forgets that's something all world/regional powers (Britain included) have been doing for ages and still are doing. Every election in Serbia, including the last one a few weeks ago, there's a ton of guys from US, Britain, France, Germany etc... saying which candidates are preferred by them.

    That's a minor example, I don't need to mention cases of supporting political or even military groups, various (N)GO's, etc etc...

    And he chose THIS as an example of big countries meddling in (un)democratic processes in other countries??? Thank you, Boris, it was a real eye opener...
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