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    Default Re: The continuing battle against the inevitable Euro area default

    Quote Originally Posted by Sarmatian View Post
    So you are saying that you are European but not EUropean and you don't want to be EUropean. That's perfectly fine. The problem is that you and a few others maintain that you don't want to be EUropean because you aren't European. That's where the confusion comes from...
    my political identity is british, nothing else.

    i consider myself part of the british polity, and consent to be governed by those elected from among my British peers because of knowledge that this governance will be conducted in a manner that is both predictable and acceptable to myself, as a result of a shared social and cultural history.

    this would very much be a majority view in Britain, therefore it can be stated with some confidence that 'we' are not EUropean in the political sense, whilst respecting that we exist in geographic mass of europe, and thus have a history of constant interaction with our neighbours. the key point here is that they are "neighbours", and friendly ones at that, but not "family".

    the belgians have a very poorly developed sense of nationhood arising from their history, and even in their desire for partition look to the EU to make up any deficit in security or governance. they therefore can be said to be EUropean in the political sense, in that they hold themselves to be part of a european polity.

    it really is that simple. what is not to understand?
    Last edited by Furunculus; 02-20-2011 at 19:28.
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