Euro Area

[Beskar]

my problem is that there is no legitimacy for a transfer union.

no taxation without representation and all that jazz.

given that the eu is neither accountable or representative, and remains disinclined to ask its various peoples whether they will accede to a federal union, i don't see this situation improving.

You know I am pro-representation and you know my views on what a Federal Europe should become. In the same breath, you don't want my vision of Europe to ever occur because full well your arguments of "no representation" "lack of democracy" "stupid bureaucracy" would no longer be valid, so the world you have shaped in your vision would be ney impossible to create.

It is one of those situations where the arguments being used against a structure so you have legitimacy to say "Let's pull right out of Europe and stuff it", however solutions to the issues such as representation amongst other things is something you seriously do not want as your goal is to pull out of Europe and the idea of a European Federation, not because of the lack of representation itself.

This manifests itself in European politics as the political battles are fought over Europe. There are a great many people advocating for reform, to usher in a era of a stable and democratic Europe, but these are strongly opposed by those who want to pull out of Europe altogether and those who have their fingers in the pie of cronyism. The pro-Europeans have the fight the united forces of Cronyism and European Skepticism made worse by the fact the Cronyism feign to bat for both sides in order to strengthen their own position within Europe at expense of the pro-Europeans and the anti-Europeans.