Quote Originally Posted by Furunculus View Post
you're conflating not wanting to be part of a federal entity with being insular and isolationist.

that is rather absurd, as we are one of the most open economies in the world, and already have free movement of people and goods within the european common market. britain isn't going to join the federal party, but many of the eurozone might if the currency is to survive, so it's about time that their governments sought mandate from their peoples don't you think?
No what I'm worried about is too much "me-ism" and a potential backlash/over correction caused by over eager politicians who aren't the most subtle at times particularly when trying to read the murky crystal ball of opinion polls. The federated version I was thinking of was soverign nations check, with the EU politicans elected directly by the people. Allow a lot of autonomy for defence, eductation and hospitals, just try and unite the economy (but allow the people who are deciding this to be directly voted upon).

I think a mandate from their peoples should have been sought first and foremost before they let other countries meddle with their economic policies... which obviously effect their quality of life... not sure if I would be a fan of diminished soverignty for soverigns.