Euro Area

[Furunculus]

LOL. Do you speak or read German? Watch German tv on a weekly basis?

AII

nope, but i read der-spiegel daily, and have done for five years now including their frequent reviews of other papers editorials, which is where i found the article on the polite silence of the mainstream conservative/right. it is linked somewhere in this forum, but cannot find it now, do you dispute it veracity or its conclusions?

your point?

Have you even been to Germany, ever?

AII

frequently, for business and pleasure, in fact i am off to nuremberg for four days in novemeber again. i will probably be back in hannover in march 2012 too.

your point?

[Adrian II]

your point?

I speak to Germans in German regularly and they have no trouble expressing their doubts about the euro or EU policies. It's a myth that Germans aren't Euroskeptiker, says this study based on opinion polls. The FDP is quite agressively euroskeptic these days, if you haven't noticed- and you should have since you speak to German businessmen regularly.

AII

[Furunculus]

I speak to Germans in German regularly and they have no trouble expressing their doubts about the euro or EU policies. It's a myth that Germans aren't Euroskeptiker, says this study based on opinion polls. The FDP is quite agressively euroskeptic these days, if you haven't noticed- and you should have since you speak to German businessmen regularly.

AII

perhaps there is something in what kagemusha says about there being a divide between what it is acceptable to say publicly in politics, and what can be said in private, in which case euroskepticism is somewhat removed from conservative/right topics, but it should be noted that this transition is recent, particularly so in the FDP.

[Adrian II]

perhaps there is something in what kagemusha says about there being a divide between what it is acceptable to say publicly in politics, and what can be said in private, in which case euroskepticism is somewhat removed from conservative/right topics, but it should be noted that this transition is recent, particularly so in the FDP.

The Greens have long been euroskeptical, even when they were in government, and they were quite open about it. They practically 'owned' euroskepticism. The German Social Democrats were always among the leading proponents of 'Europe'. The German conservatives have long been concerned with the issue of the future reunification of their country for which they 'needed Europe'. Since 1991 this motif is irrelevant and Euroskepticism is on the rise on the right.

AII

[Furunculus]

cheers. :)

dan hannan reckons eurobonds are further up the policy agenda than is being admitted to righ now......... as is usual with euro-politics:

http://blogs.telegraph.co.uk/news/da...s-merkel-says/

[Adrian II]

cheers. :)

dan hannan reckons eurobonds are further up the policy agenda than is being admitted to righ now......... as is usual with euro-politics:

http://blogs.telegraph.co.uk/news/da...s-merkel-says/

God, Dan Hannan and his private crusade again...

AII

[Furunculus]

probably the only decent politician in brussels. ;)

[Kagemusha]

The Greens have long been euroskeptical, even when they were in government, and they were quite open about it. They practically 'owned' euroskepticism. The German Social Democrats were always among the leading proponents of 'Europe'. The German conservatives have long been concerned with the issue of the future reunification of their country for which they 'needed Europe'. Since 1991 this motif is irrelevant and Euroskepticism is on the rise on the right.

AII

Maybe here in Finland we are very strange compared to mainland Europe. Here both social democrats and moderate, central party, have been not outright sceptic, but rather cautious about EU, while the Liberal right wing Kokoomus has been the strongest advocate of the Union. the populist conservative right party "true Finns" is on the other hand more then sceptic, rather outright hostile towards EU.

Also to the matter.The former CEO of German BDE Hans Olaf Henkel advocated today on interview for Financial times that the Euro should be broken up in two. He had a good idea of splitting the monetary Union into two, so the the stronger economies could keep a stronger currency and the ones that are in poor condition would benefit from weaker currency.That would be a solution i would accept.

[Furunculus]

bundesbank next in line to take a pop at the euro:

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/finance/f...undesbank.html

[phonicsmonkey]

Also to the matter.The former CEO of German BDE Hans Olaf Henkel advocated today on interview for Financial times that the Euro should be broken up in two. He had a good idea of splitting the monetary Union into two, so the the stronger economies could keep a stronger currency and the ones that are in poor condition would benefit from weaker currency.That would be a solution i would accept.

This will only work so long as the relativity within the economies of the two sets of countries remains constant, which of course it will not. As soon is there is divergence (eg. like that between Germany and Greece in the past cycle) there will be another set of fiscal problems within the shared currency, whichever one it is.

[Furunculus]

roger bootle on the legal nonsense about it being impossible to exit the euro:

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/finance/c...trump-law.html