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    Default Re: The continuing battle against the inevitable Euro area default

    Quote Originally Posted by SoFarSoGood View Post
    Hold on... we have forced immigration
    That is false. There is no 'forced' immigration. There is some policy surrounding the nature of European citizens, but that in no way shape or form reflects policy of citizens from outside the European Community and the United Kingdom has opt-outs to the Schengen Agreement. Immigration is a sovereign government issue.

    rights for every minority but never for the natives
    That is false. There is no 'extra' rights for every minority and 'never' for the natives. Considering the very nature of citizenship, any British Citizen will enjoy far more 'rights' than any non-British citizen.

    enforced working hours
    There is only a limit on working hours an employer can force you, which is to benefit of the British citizen to prevent abuse and exploitation of the workers. Even though, this is a mostly sovereign nation matter and British government regulated on this anyway since before the EU even existed. Unless you want this regulation removed which means your employer could up your hours to 60 per week, if you liked it or not, without any legal support at your end, opposed to the current situation where they can not do this and you can choose to do this voluntary.

    only 15% of the fish that can be caught in British water can be caught by British people
    That is again, false. Only regulation is that Britain can only fish 200 miles off its shore, which was enacted by the UN, and not EU. Even though, there are serious issues of overfishing within the waters which brought about enforced quotas to prevent lifestock going extinct in the Common Fisheries Policy.

    force everyone to overpay for their food to keep French fields empty
    I don't believe you know how the Common Agricultural policy works. For a start, Britain enjoys half the amount of subsidies as France for the sole reason that France has the biggest agricultural sector in Europe. Also, the "fields empty" is that farmers all over must keep 7% of their land fallow to allow wildlife to thrive otherwise many species of animals will go extinct as they have no where to live. As for "overpay for their food to keep fields empty", this is completely false, hence the "European Food Mountains and Lakes" where we produce so much food in excess, it simply goes to waste. Also, France and Germanies argriculture are both net Contributors (ie: they give to the system more than they take out, even though they take out the biggest shares), the United Kingdom is not.

    impose such regulations on our businesses that are said to cost British business $15bn per year
    There is always regulation and it always "costs money". It costs more money to depose of waste chemicals safely than just dumping it in the local water supply. Even then, due to the uniformity brought about in the regulation across the countries, it actually costs "far less" than the system where there wasn't policy harmonisation.

    continue forcing through more and more directives although some 70% of British people want a vote on Europe (you would have to be 59 now to have had a vote on Europe in England)
    I believe that is the British government and not the European Union, even then, we have always voted by-proxy with the government in power. This is the nature of representative governance.

    What the hell do you call a bailout but and enforced tax on one part of the population to pay for another part? You must be living in one of them alternate universes...
    The bailouts that occurred were systematic free-credit transference to corporate financial cartels on the sovereign states tab. By definition it is not a tax since there was no levy imposed upon the population, even so, I have not disputed this fact in anyway about it not being a form of wealth transference and only suggested that such 'bailouts' should be directed to the population opposed to any corporate interest if they were to occur. So any talk about alternative universes must be a result of critical comprehension failure.

    your answer is.... more socialism?
    You actually do know what you wrote has nothing to do with socialism outside this mentioning, right?

    Especially considering the context I explicitly defined my statement.
    Last edited by Beskar; 08-05-2012 at 20:40.
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