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**Fragony** · 09-22-2012, 13:33

Originally Posted by SoFarSoGood

Been lots of polls that show that in Britain but it doesn't seem to matter.

We never wanted in, there was a referendum and Idunno 70% or so voted against absolute power for the EUSSR, but it was just ignored and we got sneaked into it.

**SoFarSoGood** · 09-22-2012, 14:06

We has a vote here... in 1975 for the 'Common Matket'. In other words anyone who wasn't 18 or older in 1975 (55 or more now) has never had a vote.

I think the Dutch vote was on the 'Constitution' no?

**Fragony** · 09-22-2012, 14:23

Originally Posted by SoFarSoGood

We has a vote here... in 1975 for the 'Common Matket'. In other words anyone who wasn't 18 or older in 1975 (55 or more now) has never had a vote.

I think the Dutch vote was on the 'Constitution' no?

Yeah, they changed the anthem I believe and the vote just didn't count anymore, Jan-peter Balkenenede who was prez at the time was in the run for the unelected position of EU president so he signed.

**SoFarSoGood** · 09-22-2012, 15:39

So you never had a vote on 'do we want to be a part of this?'. Just a vote on 'do we want more of this?'.

**Fragony** · 09-22-2012, 15:48

Originally Posted by SoFarSoGood

So you never had a vote on 'do we want to be a part of this?'. Just a vote on 'do we want more of this?'.

Not any at all we were sneaked in. We voted against it but it was simply ignored.

**Conradus** · 09-22-2012, 19:02

The Netherlands are a founding member of the EU, you weren't sneaked in. The Constitution was abandonded after the no-votes of France and the Dutch. Lisbon replaced it and was ratified like every treaty.

**Fragony** · 09-22-2012, 19:08

Originally Posted by Conradus

The Netherlands are a founding member of the EU, you weren't sneaked in. The Constitution was abandonded after the no-votes of France and the Dutch. Lisbon replaced it and was ratified like every treaty.

Founding member of the EEG and that's just about enough

**Philippus Flavius Homovallumus** · 09-23-2012, 01:38

Originally Posted by Conradus

The Netherlands are a founding member of the EU, you weren't sneaked in. The Constitution was abandonded after the no-votes of France and the Dutch. Lisbon replaced it and was ratified like every treaty.

The Lisbon Treaty is the same document with the word "Constitution" removed.