Scientists, masters of the world part deux?

**Tellos Athenaios** · 12-01-2010, 23:37

I seem to recall that Beskar's last thread on this ended with a question about how science might explain events before the Big Bang in order to explain the Big Bang itself. (Related to the question/belief whether there is a God or not.)

Well, work is being done to make that explanation happen. As always this is highly involved and possibly quite speculative stuff -- way beyond what I grasp. For those who are interested: http://arxiv.org/abs/1011.3706

**gaelic cowboy** · 12-02-2010, 00:32

So those old myths of the universe being carried on the back of a turtle might have a modern correlation. The universe had something before it just like the turtle was before the universe in the myth

**Vladimir** · 12-02-2010, 00:36

I'll let Stargate Universe figure it out for me.

**gaelic cowboy** · 12-02-2010, 00:39

Originally Posted by Vladimir

I'll let Stargate Universe figure it out for me.

there isnt enough alien baddies in that show it's more like DawsonsHousewives in Space

**Vladimir** · 12-02-2010, 04:44

Originally Posted by gaelic cowboy

there isnt enough alien baddies in that show it's more like DawsonsHousewives in Space

Yes but they're exploring the same mystery. They'll solve it long before real scientists do.

Plus, macabre is my thing.

**A Nerd** · 12-02-2010, 19:59

I didn't quite understand the article, I found it confusing. If I read it correctly, did it not state black hole convergance providing the big bang? Anyway, if that is the case (if not ignore this) wouldn't they have to be the result of some older universe existing and over time collecting in said black holes? Perhaps our universe will suffer the same fate one day. Also, these black holes (if defined as such) could have been vacuumes of another galaxy, ie. black holes connecting two universes. The substance of one, sucked into said holes there and the exploded out into what became our universe due to convergance or the like. So ours, sucked into black holes in this universe, will explode into another on some connected plane when the openings converge. A sort on liner cycle of universe birth and rebirth. Our substance, our life, sucked up some day in the far distant future, to be recycled and reused in a parallel universe. Sort of gives rise to the infinity of time and life never ending if you believe in such things. I do anyway. I just wonder where the substance that black holes suck up here and there go before they converge. Sounds like a crazy sci-fi adventure, where is a brave Captain Kirk investigator/explorer type when you need one?