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    Default What is your idea of an ideal society?

    Let's have a little poll, shall we?

    Let's say we create a new country, Backroomistan, and you're the lovable tyrant in charge. If you could decide what percentage of criminals get caught, what would it be? In other words, where do you draw the line between individual rights and the need to protect against crime?
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    I would start by removing the victimless crimes.

    Drugs, as an example.

    Edit: How do you put a % on this? It's not like we have a clear formula to work with.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Shibumi View Post
    I would start by removing the victimless crimes.

    Drugs, as an example.

    Edit: How do you put a % on this? It's not like we have a clear formula to work with.
    Of course we do. Let's call the number of crimes solved a and the total number of crimes b. That gives us:

    (a*100)/b=x%

    The laws you have in place will affect the percentage of criminals caught, as will the level of police funding. Giving more cash to the police will undoubtedly make the percentage of crimes solved go up, but how high will you allow it to go, considering the other factors you will have to take into account?

    In short, what will be your ideal percentage?
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    As Ronin said, I'd start by making loads of things that are currently crimes not offences any more, mainly drugs and prostitution which would instead be covered where required by other laws based on breaching the peace etc.

    There were crimes in Nazi Germany, the USSR, Cuba and everywhere else. So surveillance and reduction in rights in itself does not create a crime free society. I imagine the only true way is to make nothing a crime...

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    Percents like those are for law enforcement agencies with a warped set of priorities. Ronin's approach is much better.
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    Quote Originally Posted by rory_20_uk View Post
    As Ronin said, I'd start by making loads of things that are currently crimes not offences any more, mainly drugs and prostitution which would instead be covered where required by other laws based on breaching the peace etc.

    There were crimes in Nazi Germany, the USSR, Cuba and everywhere else. So surveillance and reduction in rights in itself does not create a crime free society. I imagine the only true way is to make nothing a crime...

    .....which is why the question wasn't "how do you get rid of crime". Abolishing all crime would mean nobody is a criminal(0%), if that is what you want then that's your answer.... If it's not, and you do not believe that you can catch all criminals, then you belong somewhere between 1% and 99%.

    My question is where.

    Figure out what laws and such you want in your ideal society, think about what that society will look like and try guessing what % of crimes in that society will be solved...
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    Quote Originally Posted by HoreTore View Post
    Let's have a little poll, shall we?

    Let's say we create a new country, Backroomistan, and you're the lovable tyrant in charge. If you could decide what percentage of criminals get caught, what would it be? In other words, where do you draw the line between individual rights and the need to protect against crime?
    that is not defined by the % of criminals you want to catch....it's defined by what laws you put into effect.
    Capture of 100% of criminals should always be the ultimate goal....I´d just make a bunch of stuff not ilegal any more.
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