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    Quote Originally Posted by fightermedic View Post
    now i'm curious
    which cultural group was the first one then?
    I don't think anyone knows but multistorey buildings have been around almost as long as cities have. They were present in Mesoptamia, the Indus valley and China thousands of years before Carthage was even founded.
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    even the oldest setlement know çatak huyuk in turkey there where a few and their entrance as by the roof but then again i meant 6 store buildings not just 2 store high buildings (actually the 1st i´ve heard was in a poeni setlement in sicily not even in carthage but i can assume the building constructions where similar )

    brave sir robin i think thats the story about jericho and the "spy" moved on to the house of a jew already living inside the walled city

    the bible speaks of a 6 meter high wall (or 9 can´t recall atm) but then again it might be extremly exagerated but thats just a personal opinion

    resume: 6 story high buildings carthage had
    according to what i read from diferent authors it mantained a 600.000 population and towards the ends it was able to recruit a 80.000 population militia for it´s defence before the final fall at the end of the 3rd punic war (i hate this definition it wasn´t a true war the carthies never had a chance even if they had won and had maintaned their freedom they would only have been invaded and sieged again without much of a chance to strike back)

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    Quote Originally Posted by moonburn View Post
    even the oldest setlement know çatak huyuk in turkey there where a few and their entrance as by the roof but then again i meant 6 store buildings not just 2 store high buildings (actually the 1st i´ve heard was in a poeni setlement in sicily not even in carthage but i can assume the building constructions where similar )
    Well thats being a bit overly specific, you said they were the first ones to build upwards. Even the things like the Nuraghe on Sardinia were of that size and thats not taking into account things like temples and palaces.


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    Indeed, many of the Near Eastern Temples and Palaces were truly wonders to behold. I can't recall specific figures off the top of my head, but I have seen interpretive drawings and archaeological reports and these things were truly massive, as big as the Colosseum and bigger.



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    tanit you mean the babylonian zigurats ? i´ve seen a few picture and image depictions and they always remind of the aztec piramids :\

    and yes bobbin i might have exagerated a litle bit but normally those constructions didn´t had the social meaning of building flats purelly for habitacional purposes before the charties 2 store high buildings during the carthies 6 store high buildings and after the carthies only a few places in rome with such buildings and then again not for habitation (according to what i read but ofc i don´t claim to know everything) since those roman 6 store high buildings where a kind of modern shopping centers with each store a kind of product

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    Quote Originally Posted by moonburn View Post
    tanit you mean the babylonian zigurats ? i´ve seen a few picture and image depictions and they always remind of the aztec piramids :\
    That would be one type of the buildings he was talking about, one of many.

    and yes bobbin i might have exagerated a litle bit but normally those constructions didn´t had the social meaning of building flats purelly for habitacional purposes before the charties 2 store high buildings during the carthies 6 store high buildings and after the carthies only a few places in rome with such buildings and then again not for habitation (according to what i read but ofc i don´t claim to know everything) since those roman 6 store high buildings where a kind of modern shopping centers with each store a kind of product.
    I think it is generally accepted that the Nuraghe were houses, albeit fortified ones. We also know that ancient egyptians in the 2nd millenium BC had 3 storey high town houses and were perfectly capable of building bigger.
    Imperial Rome had plenty of residential buildings of a similar and sometimes larger size btw, they were called Insulae.

    If your going to make such sweeping statements like "only 2 storeys before" or "no 6 storey Roman houses after" you should provide some evidence to back it up.


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