What happened to the progressive-left majority in Britain?

[rory_20_uk]

He also believed in massive conscription for the Civil Service and others organs of state. The best way to organise is Centrally with those who merely happen to live in the area following orders from the People's Representative, not merely the people - after all what do they know?

Horetore - quick reality check... The Rich don't want to live in apartments built in an Industrial Estate. That is fiction. You don't knock down a steel mill and turn it into Executive flats funnily enough.

The UK tried "backing" leading industries in the 1970's. The Unions saw these as cash machines and managed to produce goods that no one wanted with abysmal quality but with wage increases that manage to cause massive inflation. Many industries weren't fine then went into trouble as though this was a blip - they were massively undercut from elsewhere in the world yet wanted subsidies to carry on doing what they'd always done but for increasing wages.

The labour party was required roughly 100 years ago. Most of the things they campaigned for are now laws, which is what created this difficulty of what to now stand for. There is health and safety that can cripple companies that go over 50 employees, unemployment and other allowances that already create a situation where working isn't profitable, subsidised houses that can be almost bequeathed to one's children and an expectation that jobs should be on the doorstep as it would be unthinkable to move from their area. From no health service bar a few friendly societies to one where IVF and cosmetic procedures are free and yet we still manage to have high levels of teenage pregnancy, from no dentistry to braces from the state lest people have crooked teeth. Education was the purview of the few now is for all until 18 - although we still manage to slide yearly down the league tables.

The working class lost faith when they belatedly realised that providing worse service at a greater cost than others do in the world and the massive debts that had been created by pouring money into "investments" turned out to have failed the most basic test of an investment which to get more out than one puts in - like all the lucky investors who bought the gold Brown flogged.

[HoreTore]

Quick reality check, rory:

The harbour in Drammen, the workplace of just under a thousand, is set to be knocked down in a few years, replaced with apartment buildings of the very expensive kind

[rory_20_uk]

The thread title says Britain. If you're going to choose examples from abroad, please point that out.

[HoreTore]

The thread title says Britain. If you're going to choose examples from abroad, please point that out.

The same thing applies to Britain, as it does all over Europe, but not living there means I don't have examples at hand.

Rich people don't like living in industrial areas with industry, no, but they sure enjoy living in industrial areas once all the industry is knocked down.