What happened to the progressive-left majority in Britain?

[Furunculus]

awesome speech by MiliD on the apparent death of the left, why it has happened, and what to do about it:

http://www.newstatesman.com/uk-polit...parties-social

Left parties are losing elections more comprehensively than ever before. They are losing from government and from opposition; they are losing in majoritarian systems and PR systems; just for good measure they are losing whatever position the party had on the Iraq war; and they are fragmenting at just the time the right is uniting.

if labour listens to what he's saying they might have a chance of getting elected in 2015!

[rory_20_uk]

awesome speech by MiliD on the apparent death of the left, why it has happened, and what to do about it:

http://www.newstatesman.com/uk-polit...parties-social

if labour listens to what he's saying they might have a chance of getting elected in 2015!

I thought he managed to say little in a lot of words. Lots of waffly phrases which are not particularly useful, and of course no costings of anything. Not once did he mention that perhaps basing anything on a decade of vast spending is somewhat flawed as the money runs out which in turn invalidates the whole model: I might have a transiently better life if I had a Mercedes S class in getting around and personal safety, but it is not a realistic solution.

I'm not saying the Right have all the answers either. Hence why we flip flop from one to the other as we get sick of the heartless Right and then sick of the spendthrift left; we hate postcode lotteries and monolithic systems such as NICE; support for all - but no rise in taxes... The list goes on where voters have no apparent insight or indeed interest over their small patch of immediate desires.

[Furunculus]

I thought he managed to say little in a lot of words. Lots of waffly phrases which are not particularly useful, and of course no costings of anything. Not once did he mention that perhaps basing anything on a decade of vast spending is somewhat flawed as the money runs out which in turn invalidates the whole model: I might have a transiently better life if I had a Mercedes S class in getting around and personal safety, but it is not a realistic solution.

I'm not saying the Right have all the answers either. Hence why we flip flop from one to the other as we get sick of the heartless Right and then sick of the spendthrift left; we hate postcode lotteries and monolithic systems such as NICE; support for all - but no rise in taxes... The list goes on where voters have no apparent insight or indeed interest over their small patch of immediate desires.

you must remember that he wasn't addressing us, he was addressing one of the thickest and most tribal demographic that exists anywhere: the labour trade-union core. he has to move gently.