[Council of Villains] A State of Corruption [Concluded]

[Sasaki Kojiro]

I would note that this is entirely normal behavior for Seon. He's not easy to analyze because his behavior is quite random and does not conform to expected townie behavior.

He's not in ACIN territory, but he's halfway there.

I could go either way on Seon, but the reason to vote him isn't there.

SNTOEHSUGHLSCEUSOEGBJLBDKAOSBJBU

YOU JUST GAVE EXCELLENT REASONS TO LYNCH HIM OVER EITHER OF THE TWO LEADING CANDIDATES

classical hero in star wars, we lynched him for being super scummy. Plays the same in another game, gets the scum win. Don't ignore people. I think even seon would have a genuine comment to add with a detective result if he was town.

Where's the town leadership pizza?

[Askthepizzaguy]

The issue is, you are trying to be anything but a townie, especially in your defense of TinCow. When TinCow gets lynched and is revealed as being mafia, what are you going to say then?

Probably "Whoops, my bad, I was wrong."

I don't read his behavior as being supportive of a mafia partner. That's too reckless. Just like I don't read your behavior as being deceitful here.

Remember, obviously wrong behavior is likely to be townie behavior. People who are in the know and making nearly flawless moves probably know more than we do and are more likely to be mafia.

[Askthepizzaguy]

SNTOEHSUGHLSCEUSOEGBJLBDKAOSBJBU

YOU JUST GAVE EXCELLENT REASONS TO LYNCH HIM OVER EITHER OF THE TWO LEADING CANDIDATES

classical hero in star wars, we lynched him for being super scummy. Plays the same in another game, gets the scum win. Don't ignore people. I think even seon would have a genuine comment to add with a detective result if he was town.

Where's the town leadership pizza?

I like Nictel better, that's why.

But, given the choice, yeah; Seon over Glenn or Tincow is fine.

A cat is fine too.

Support me on Nictel, maybe I'll support you on Seon later.

[Sasaki Kojiro]

Nictel could just be busy atm.

[Sasaki Kojiro]

Alternatively, we could lynch frozen, although I don't remember why.

[Askthepizzaguy]

Nictel could just be busy atm.

I still want to drink his blood and find out if it is scummy. Why must you be so difficult? Everyone else just follows my lead. I command you to do as I say!!!

Pew pew pew pew

*makes hand motions* It's useless to resist!




Fine, be that way. I'll vote for Seon if that's the alternative to the leaders. You need moar votes though.


I just realized I sound like I am drunk. That's because I am way too tired to be doing this right now.

[Yaropolk]

This is odd.

Random trusting Beskar N1 aside, you're still jumping the gun a bit to vote for Beskar.

Even if everything Beskar said were dead wrong somehow, it's unlikely to be a mafia move what he's doing. There is no reason to vote for Beskar here that I can tell.

Perhaps an explanation would be in order?

Yes, an explanation from Beskar is indeed in order

[landlubber]

Vote: insanious.

[Yaropolk]

unvote: insanious; vote: Glenn The case on TinCow seems week and Glenn seems to be trying too hard. I can't remember if that is normal for him or not.

This post is scummy

[TinCow]

Apologies for my absence. I had to drive 4.5 hours this morning while nursing a serious hangover. Wife couldn't share the driving, she was even worse off.

I'm somewhat surprised to see that I actually have a chance of surviving this round. I don't exactly have a whole lot more to say, there's only been a single night and you already have my only investigation result. My role name is Isaac from some game I've never heard of. I am a "Hero" which I thought was just a normal townie role, but since everyone who's dead is showing up as a Survivalist of some kind, I think I'm a minority town role. My victory condition is to destroy all anti-town forces. What exactly is a Survivalist anyway? Do all of you guys have to survive until the end of the game to win?

[Sasaki Kojiro]

I agree.

[Askthepizzaguy]

Tincow- If you survive and you're not mafia, I'd say lesson was learned from FOTO.

Something is definitely not right here; either Beskar's investigator is full of it, or Tincow cannot be trusted at all.

I think we have the resources to find out which, without lynching Tincow, but that's a lot of investment. You must decide if you want to invest those resources. In the meantime, my vote is on Nictel for reasons stated, and you must decide. I will not be back before the round is over and I won't be able to change my vote, so I think it best if I keep my vote away from the current leaders. You have enough votes to lynch or not lynch Tincow, so the options are available.

Adios and good luck.

[ULC]

Can we have a quick tally? I'm going to hop on the bandwagon of "Roleblock TC", can't do it by joining the abstain bandwagon.

I know where Isaac is from TC, so he is kind of good cover for Cloud Strife. However, Isaac doesn't make sense as an investigator, so...

[robbiecon]

Lynch Glenn, I'm getting bad vibes off him. He seemed quite useful yesterday, with all his Tally's and commenting, but he's playing similar to myself when I'm mafia, a bit more relaxed to help out, especially when you can offer known townies up for a lynch.

[Frozen In Ice]

Are we talking Issac from Golden Sun?

Tally:

7 TinCow (Beskar, Skooma Addict, autolycus, johnhughtom, Insanious, classical_hero, Secura)
7 Glenn (Romanic, Frozen In Ice, pevergreen, Jarema, Double A, Rebel Jeb, woad&fangs)
2 Nictel (ATPG, Winston)
2 Insanious (YLC, Landlubber)
1 Seon (Sasaki)
1 Rebel Jeb (Glenn)
1 Beskar (Yaropolk)
1 Beefy (Beefy)
1 Motep (God Emperor)
3 Abstaining (DeathisYonder, Nightbringer, Capt. Blackadder)

[Sasaki Kojiro]

unvote,vote:nictel

[Romanic]

8 TinCow (Beskar, Skooma Addict, autolycus, johnhughtom, Insanious, classical_hero, Diamondeye, Secura)
7 Glenn (Romanic, Frozen In Ice, pevergreen, Jarema, Double A, Rebel Jeb, woad&fangs)
3 Nictel (ATPG, Winston, Sasaki)
2 Insanious (YLC, Landlubber)
1 Rebel Jeb (Glenn)
1 Beskar (Yaropolk)
1 Beefy (Beefy)
1 Motep (God Emperor)
4 Abstaining (DeathisYonder, Nightbringer, Thefluffyone93, Capt. Blackadder)

Updated and fixed. The last tallies were missing DE's vote on TinCow (#365) and Thefluffyone's abstain (#396).

[Romanic]

OOC note: Welcome Back Romanicninccinc :D

Looks like someone drank too much on New Years Eve?

[ULC]

Unvote:, Vote: Glenn

[Ironside]

Vote: Tincow

I can see one point for the mafia to stick their neck out like this, but that would require that Tincow have some "unkillable by night" -role and they know it. Highly improbable, in particular with Tincow's role claim.

Roleblocking and more scans have the problem that we don't know the strength of roleblocking (Or even if it's in the game, but that's probable). FOTO had sith able to convert and melee attack while roleblocked, so only role-restricted in that case.
For extra scanning, how are we supposed to get the data out to town atm? Beskar is a default ally or a semi-random choise (aka might still be mafia, even if it's unlikely). How many turns would it take to establish a network to get the info out in public?

If anybody has good plans for this, lets hear them.

[Sasaki Kojiro]

investigators so far:

beskars freind
greyblades
tincow

greyblades flipped as "survivalist" too. So it seems to me that investigating in a low grade power. Which means it is nerfed. Which means we shouldn't go LYNCH LYNCH LYNCH with a result. It may be useful later.

c'mon, just a few votes on the nictel wagon. It would be 8-7-5 if you had both voted him.

[ULC]

Vote: Tincow

I can see one point for the mafia to stick their neck out like this, but that would require that Tincow have some "unkillable by night" -role and they know it. Highly improbable, in particular with Tincow's role claim.

Roleblocking and more scans have the problem that we don't know the strength of roleblocking (Or even if it's in the game, but that's probable). FOTO had sith able to convert and melee attack while roleblocked, so only role-restricted in that case.
For extra scanning, how are we supposed to get the data out to town atm? Beskar is a default ally or a semi-random choise (aka might still be mafia, even if it's unlikely). How many turns would it take to establish a network to get the info out in public?

If anybody has good plans for this, lets hear them.

I'd vote you for this, except I don't want TC to die.

[Romanic]

Lynch Glenn, I'm getting bad vibes off him. He seemed quite useful yesterday, with all his Tally's and commenting, but he's playing similar to myself when I'm mafia, a bit more relaxed to help out, especially when you can offer known townies up for a lynch.

Why are you promoting a lynch when you're not even voting yourself?

[TinCow]

greyblades flipped as "survivalist" too. So it seems to me that investigating in a low grade power. Which means it is nerfed. Which means we shouldn't go LYNCH LYNCH LYNCH with a result. It may be useful later.

My power is called Scan Visor. Description is: Investigate a target’s identity and alignment at night. Icon is the same one that is shown in Greyblades' death. We likely have (had) the same ability. Looks to me like a low-level investigation ability similar to those I gave townies in Rubicon: their purpose was to encourage inter-faction fighting by allowing the factions to ID each other. In Rubicon, those level investigations did not reveal mafia.

c'mon, just a few votes on the nictel wagon. It would be 8-7-5 if you had both voted him.

Vote: Nictel

[Secura]

Why are you promoting a lynch when you're not even voting yourself?

Dead:
robbiecon - Trace (GF Survivalist)

Do keep up, Romanic!

[Romanic]

Do keep up, Romanic!

Duh, Robbie is dead. Oops.

[ULC]

Vote: Nictel

You're power doesn't sound legit to me based on your character and why Nictel?

[Sasaki Kojiro]

You're power doesn't sound legit to me based on your character and why Nictel?

why nictel? WHY NICTEL? SOTCDGSUCKADDQ KCIG

[TinCow]

You're power doesn't sound legit to me based on your character and why Nictel?

Barring Goldeneye and Mario Kart 64, I haven't played any console games since the NES. I can't alleviate your doubts about the role/power as I know nothing about the universe this game is set in.

I voted Nictel because Sasaki wants him lynched. The whole reason I investigated Sasaki on N1 is the same reason I always investigate him N1 when I have the ability to do so: I trust his gut instinct far more than my own and I have a tendency to follow his lead when I have no specific leads of my own. Knowing his alignment makes that a bit easier for me. Also, to be blunt, I'm not exactly in a strong position to start arguing for a specific person's lynch here.

[ULC]

why nictel? WHY NICTEL? SOTCDGSUCKADDQ KCIG

Nictel to get support for Seon? Then why not just Seon?!

Barring Goldeneye and Mario Kart 64, I haven't played any console games since the NES. I can't alleviate your doubts about the role/power as I know nothing about the universe this game is set in.

I voted Nictel because Sasaki wants him lynched. The whole reason I investigated Sasaki on N1 is the same reason I always investigate him N1 when I have the ability to do so: I trust his gut instinct far more than my own and I have a tendency to follow his lead when I have no specific leads of my own. Knowing his alignment makes that a bit easier for me. Also, to be blunt, I'm not exactly in a strong position to start arguing for a specific person's lynch here.

No, that's not the issue. I'd be concerned if you did know what universe this is set in, and whom Isaac is. The power fits the setting, not the character.

Sasaki may want Nictel lynched, but that won't save you unless you have more supporters. It's more productive to simply vote Glenn.