[Council of Villains] A State of Corruption [Concluded]

[autolycus]

I'd like to comment that I heard a lot of people earlier talking about conversions. No previous CoV game had conversions (except maybe Koopa Troop, I didn't quite get what happened with Peach and Dimentio), and I don't see any reason to believe in them now. There may be townies that can win with scum, that was established in Rubicon, which Chaotix says this drew on.
Now, if Winston's claim is true, let's see what we have in terms of known teams in the original setup.
GF Survivalists-??? - One of the main townie teams.
IFDH Survivalists- ??? - Another townie team.
Heroes- ????- The final known team of townies
Meta-Ridley-1- Scum/Neutral- Claims to just be out to kill Samus and Dark Samus.
Phazon Corrupted- 3?-Cloud Strife, Dark Samus and Corrupted Pikachu, traditional scum team.
Team Samus/ ??? Corrupted-3 - Samus, Hot Girl, Cold Dude, traditional Scum team.
Peach and Bowser-2- Neutral
This leaves 38 to be in our townie squads, which is plausible, there might even be one or two more neutrals out there.


Edit: After reviewing Koopa Troop, I suspect Luigi of being in this game somehow, likely as part of the heroes. He died in CoV1, got resurrected for Koopa Troop, and his "lynch" was an escape. Chaotix loves him. Also, Koopa Troop did have conversions, so conversions do seem plausible/likely,

[Sasaki Kojiro]

Converts were possible in rubicon.

[Winston Hughes]

All players with kill abilities should target ATPG tonight.

[Reenk Roink]

Man, am I happy that I am gonna get SO DRUNK tonight (after watching Black Swan ).

First KILL BESKAR



You only killed two useless townies. Sasaki always stays active whether dead or alive and I chose to get more active after death too. GOOD JOB!

Reenk was killed for claiming to be a 'awesome role'

How can you fall for that after all this time? I guess it was more understandable because technically I didn't know my role at the time I said that, but still.

I got scanned because of that silly Reenk thing? Yeesh, I wouldn't have gone along with that even if I was town. I don't like being told how to vote.

I wasn't telling you all how to vote... I was asking to discuss who to vote for with 6 other people whose insights and opinions I valued and who I thought were the best to get Mafia while also making my vote more potent...

You cannot use that as a reason for having killed Reenk, because you didn't come to learn about the voting block until the second day phase.

False, I knew about it in advance. Hence the "some one contacted me" and I went "Reenk?" and you started spluttering about.

You told him Secura? Anyway, I guess you told him AFTER it doesn't matter. The important question is who the **** told anyone else from the start? It seems like TinCow. Never contacting you again.

So Beskar, how did you find out about the voting block on day 1?

As a living player, you can reveal the names that were invited, right?

I'd prefer you guys not reveal the names (I'd like to do this again but it seems unlikely now).

Lastly and most importantly:

Secura is right in a way. The town needs to start up and finish this job off. TSo you guys should just burn out what's been burned out (meaning KILL BESKAR) and go from there.

Therefore I'm gonna even change my position on Atpg. Keep him alive for a bit more if you like, but if you don't have any good leads for a night Atpg might as well die. We certainly don't need him to win, and there is so much time at this moment that minimizing his potential risk is worth losing his protown services if that is truly his goal.

[Ironside]

GF Survivalists-??? - One of the main townie teams.
IFDH Survivalists- ??? - Another townie team.
Heroes- ????- The final known team of townies
Meta-Ridley-1- Scum/Neutral- Claims to just be out to kill Samus and Dark Samus.
Phazon Corrupted- 3?-Cloud Strife, Dark Samus and Corrupted Pikachu, traditional scum team.
Team Samus/ ??? Corrupted-3 - Samus, Hot Girl,Cold Dude, traditional Scum team.
Peach and Bowser-2- Neutral, Hot Girl.
This leaves 38 to be in our townie squads, which is plausible, there might even be one or two more neutrals out there.

Some correction.
Also notice that Beskar's kills is colour coded in the same colour as the Hunter aka Samus. Odd relation if Beskar is third party.

As a living player, you can reveal the names that were invited, right?

Indeed. And since Beskar is avoiding the question:

This PM was sent out to:
Me
Beefy187
pevergreen
Renata

Spoiler Alert, click show to read: 

All right so we've got Renata, Ironside, Beefy, pever, and myself for this. TinCow wants his voting independence and Secura is just being suspicious (so I am being even more cryptic and difficult with her).

Anyway, all I'm suggesting is that we form a voting block of sorts in the early round. I'm sick of my vote being meaningless, and I also can't convince anyone of anything, so essentially I want to vote in a group of several people together which makes my own vote have more power.

Also, I hate reading 600 posts per day when the game begins and thus I never do it, and thus I always miss that one important thing said.

So if we briefly discuss to ourselves who to vote for and then all decide on one candidate, we go a long way to solving the problems of being weak and unheard and ignorant!

We only really have to do this in the early round anyway, because early on, at least I don't really have too strong an opinion and will go with the group (if the group is small and good like ours), even if I'm thinking someone else.

We can always just dismantle our voting group later on when it becomes useless or we disagree too much.

By the way, can we even vig/protect in this game?

It fell apart quite quickly since we didn't know if we could pm to multiple people at the same time inside the rules and RR:s death. I didn't have any contact after that.
Notice that RR mentions those that didn't join and that Beskar isn't on any list.
Could be something else, but there's high odds that me (in fairness), Beefy or pever are allied to Beskar, who in turn feels to be on team Samus.

I must say that if even if those left are all townies, that's quite a high percentage of mafia. At least 2 out of 6.

Edit: RR, I'm doing this because from my perspective, there's a high chance to have a scummy among the two others.

[Sasaki Kojiro]

All players with kill abilities should target ATPG tonight.

You just confessed to being mafia.

[Winston Hughes]

You just confessed to being mafia.

No, I just want him dead.

[Winston Hughes]

As does everyone else.

[thefluffyone93]

I do?

[Chaotix]

You guys sure post a lot for night phases!

I simultaneously enjoy and dread having to read all of this. At least the game is popular.

Most of it seems like good discussion, but when possible try to cut down on the spam and unnecessary stuff during night phases.

Anyway, the phase ends in a little after an hour. I'll try to have the write-up soon after that, as I'm starting the essentials now.

[Greyblades]

Winston have you ever heard of the edit button?

[Captain Blackadder]

I'd like to comment that I heard a lot of people earlier talking about conversions. No previous CoV game had conversions (except maybe Koopa Troop, I didn't quite get what happened with Peach and Dimentio), and I don't see any reason to believe in them now. There may be townies that can win with scum, that was established in Rubicon, which Chaotix says this drew on.
Now, if Winston's claim is true, let's see what we have in terms of known teams in the original setup.
GF Survivalists-??? - One of the main townie teams.
IFDH Survivalists- ??? - Another townie team.
Heroes- ????- The final known team of townies
Meta-Ridley-1- Scum/Neutral- Claims to just be out to kill Samus and Dark Samus.
Phazon Corrupted- 3?-Cloud Strife, Dark Samus and Corrupted Pikachu, traditional scum team.
Team Samus/ ??? Corrupted-3 - Samus, Hot Girl, Cold Dude, traditional Scum team.
Peach and Bowser-2- Neutral
This leaves 38 to be in our townie squads, which is plausible, there might even be one or two more neutrals out there.


Edit: After reviewing Koopa Troop, I suspect Luigi of being in this game somehow, likely as part of the heroes. He died in CoV1, got resurrected for Koopa Troop, and his "lynch" was an escape. Chaotix loves him. Also, Koopa Troop did have conversions, so conversions do seem plausible/likely,

Converts were possible in Koopa Troop I was dementio in that game and i could mind control people into doing my biding.

[Secura]

Anyway, I guess you told him AFTER it doesn't matter.

I only told him that it was you after you died and I told him about TinCow's reaction to the group.

I'd prefer you guys not reveal the names (I'd like to do this again but it seems unlikely now).

Sorry, I'd already asked him to!

I would have loved to participate in the group had it been permitted... it's just a shame you misinterpreted a poor vanilla townie's scepticism as being suspicious and that you invited Dark Samus and her toyboy along for the ride!

Notice that RR mentions those that didn't join and that Beskar isn't on any list.

[Beskar]

You just confessed to being mafia.

I told you he was. His claim was false. At the current rate, I will be dead and you can see I was telling the truth. Though, it will be abit too late when that happens.

[Beskar]

You only killed two useless townies. Sasaki always stays active whether dead or alive and I chose to get more active after death too. GOOD JOB!

My goal isn't to kill townies, so you becoming more active is actually a good thing. So yes, you are correct. Good job.

[Chaotix]

Round over, still working on write-up.

Bear with me, I have a ton of night actions to go through.

[Choxorn]

I hope someone attacked Beskar and someone attacked Winston. If they are both still alive, then the innocents with kill abilities have some 'splainin to do.

[pevergreen]

Reenk (v. - Reenked/Reenking): The act of creating a single post or PM that, through a complex series of unlikely events, results in the total or near total obliteration of all scum in a mafia game. (e.g. "TinCow, Renata, ATPG, and Beskar got reenked.")

I like this.

As for the voting block, nothing ever happened. I quickly pointed out to Reenk that, at that stage, it was against the rules. I was jealous, I wanted it to be like old times. Just me and Reenk.

Due to the time differences, before we could work anything out, he was killed.

AND IF BESKAR DID IT, BY GOD YOU WILL SUFFER.

[classical_hero]

Pever, how does it feel to miss out on all this action? It is a shame we are on the other side of the world compared to most of the players.

[pevergreen]

Pever, how does it feel to miss out on all this action? It is a shame we are on the other side of the world compared to most of the players.

Woah, hey dude. I never realised you were from Perth!

Do you know some of the other Aussies around?

What are you doing up so early. Its not even 11!

[classical_hero]

Woah, hey dude. I never realised you were from Perth!

Do you know some of the other Aussies around?

What are you doing up so early. Its not even 11!

Yeah I know, butI got woken up by the need to go to the can. I'll leave at that, but I do know that I will need some more sleep in the afternoon.

I think we are the only two here playing mafia. There are some on other site, but I am not sure if you are a member of them.

[Captain Blackadder]

Excuse me I am a fellow Australian as well

[Askthepizzaguy]

I am so dead tonight, and I don't even care. Time to go out in style.

LEEEEEEEROOOOOOYYYYYY JENKINSSSSSSS

[thefluffyone93]

At least you have chicken.

[Askthepizzaguy]

Trying to post this before I die.

Sequence of events:

1. Tincow is revealed to be scum, I contact him before he dies, let him know I'm neutral (want to get murders off of my back)
2. I reveal some of my powers to others (want to get lynches off of my back)
3. I find out Beskar claimed incorruptible hero, and since town already trusted him, I tried to. (Wanted to coordinate my actions with town's)
4. Pressure on Seon leads to hunch on Renata
5. Pressure on Renata leads to me being exposed.
6. Renata is lynched
7. Pressure on Winston (hunch, based on his behavior) leads to Winston accusing Beskar.
8. I already suspect Beskar knows a mafia investigator, if he's not mafia himself. At the time, I believe Beskar is innocent.
9. I find out Beskar has killing powers due to Winston's pressure, he reveals to me.
10. I put more pressure on Beskar, again accusing him of being Samus mafia. (Yes, as buddy buddy as I acted publicly, I was constantly questioning and pressuring Beskar privately. I needed to know if I could trust him.)
11. He reveals he's Peach and is working for Bowser. Claims his partner is Doopliss or something. Look it up on the mario wiki.
12. He says Bowser isn't even in the game. Story seems almost plausible.
13. Since my neck is on the line and a reflection on me, whatever Beskar does, and I still don't trust his investigator, I demand to know who this person is. Beskar knows I have zero motive for killing said investigator unless they are Samus.
14. Beskar refuses to reveal. That plus the fact he didn't fully reveal to me to begin with tells me he doesn't trust me, even after I fully revealed to him. As such, there is no possible partnership, I do not work with people who are constantly dishonest and secretive toward me.
15. Under massive pressure, Beskar reveals he knows who Samus is, privately. At this point I know he's covering for Samus mafia, or is Samus mafia.
16. Beskar refuses to reveal Samus. I switch my order to kill him.

17. I die, the end....

This is how mafia goes. No hard feelings, Beskar. But I can't trust you; I revealed fully to you and you continued to be secretive and deceptive towards me.



Darn thee thou cursed mafia... from the depths of hell I STAB AT THEE

[pevergreen]

Excuse me I am a fellow Australian as well

I was gunna mention you!

Sucks you got sick that day we were supposed to meet up.

I am so dead tonight, and I don't even care. Time to go out in style.

LEEEEEEEROOOOOOYYYYYY JENKINSSSSSSS

ATPG has no style, he has no grace. This guy has a funny face. He can handstand, when he needs to. And stretch his arms out, just for you. Inflate himself, just like balloon. This crazy guy just digs this tune.

[thefluffyone93]

What an unfortunate series of events.
I wuv you too much to see you die atpg, even if you are a psycho space dragon cyborg.

[Rebel Jeb]

I think I can almost mark you off as innocent now, Rebel Jeb.

Well thanks. :P

[Askthepizzaguy]

What an unfortunate series of events.
I wuv you too much to see you die atpg, even if you are a psycho space dragon cyborg.

Don't cry for me fluffy, I'm already dead.

[thefluffyone93]

Awww...okay.
Is revenge ok?