[Council of Villains] A State of Corruption [Concluded]

[DELETE_THIS]

Oh, right, voting.

I don't really have a top suspect right now. I'm just checking in right now, but I'll do something later on today.

vote: abstain for now.

What's that? Sending in your kill orders? vote: Double A

[Ironside]

The reason I wasn't one the tincow wagon was clearly explained having 30 people just vote the same way is bad for town and I said as much I was abstaining incase some new information came to light we would lynch someone else. That did not happen but what I did was still better for town then the countless people who joined on the wagon towards the end.

Since I distinctly remember that the Tincow case ended with almost enough people jumping ship for him to survive, I'm going with:
Vote: Captain Blackadder

[johnhughthom]

Vote: Double A

[Insert obligatory stuff here to pretend I've considered this vote carefully]

[Diamondeye]

Vote: Double A

[Insert obligatory stuff here to pretend I've considered this vote carefully]

Like:

Vote: Double A

Obviously he is scum, because Glenn says it.
Also, Seon posted a funny picture of an owl.

[Double A]

I was going to sleep. And fairly soon I will be going to school. But after I do my exams (!!!) today and get back at 1pm (short day, 6hrs) I will vote for who I think is scum. I've been reading the posts, but no one strikes me as scum, so I'll just reread all of the posts from the past couple phases or so.

What's that? Sending in your kill orders? vote: Double A

Yes. I'm sending in my kill orders in the middle of the day. Because I always do that. And then never check the org until I have killed.

[Romanic]

Vote: Captain Blackadder sounds like a good candidate to me. Looking at his previous posts he wasn't on the Tincow or Renata wagons, but he was on the ATPG one, so I find it possible that he might be Pikachu.

It was requested that the votes on TinCow were kept low. Many of us would have voted TinCow, but chose otherwise for this very reason. Not being on the TinCow wagon is a null tell, speciallywhen someone mentions this reason in the game thread:

Spoiler Alert, click show to read: 

Vote Abstain

I have learnt that investigator claiming this early can mean various things. This could be a very ballsy bussing technique but he could be right and I think Tincow should go but the amount of votes on him are enough and in case he comes up with some great defence I do not want him lynched on my vote. Plus a chorus of people voting tincow is hardly helpfull

Not being on the Renata bandwagon doesn't make CB scum either, because he was voting against a revealed serial killer. They were two good picks really.

Bad reasons to vote against CB, really.

Hmm? You abstained during the TC lynch. Jumped on the ATPG bandwagon, ATPG was a serial killer - safe vote. Jumped on the Jarema bandwagon, neutral safe vote. You had no problem jumping on those wagons, but the TC one was just too much for you? Interesting.

Unvote: johnhughthom, Vote: Captain Blackadder

There's a difference between a vote on a revealed serial killer and a vote on the most inactive player in the game (khaan).

Voting against ATPG and Jarema were good choices for the Town, something that the mafia might not have wanted because it meant one less kill at night.

The dead player list reflects this perfectly.

Dead players who voted ATPG and/or Jarema
choxorn 2 (GF), Insanious (IDFH), Romanic (IDFH), Winston Hughes (GF), woad&fangs (GF)

It's completely wrong to compare Capt Blackadder's votes on ATPG and Jarema with JHT's vote on Yaseikhaan. Now the question is how you doing it on purpose, Csargo?

Real townies are looking for real arguments to vote against someone, and your argument are not real, though you might want them to appear real.

Anyway, @everyone, I don't see the case on Blackadder. His votes on ATPG and Jarema are Townish (I've made the same votes). Wanting to lynch a claimed serial killer is not reason enough to lynch someone.

If you want to pick one between AA and CB, then pick AA. Leave Blackadder alone, he's made some good votes, unlike Double A who's been a non factor.

[Romanic]

Tally.

5 Captain Blackadder (Cecil, Yaropolk, Frozen in Ice, Csargo, Ironside)
5 Double A (Skooma, Glenn, Nictel, johnhughthom, Diamondeye)
2 Skooma Addict (Greyblades, Beefy)
1 johnhughthom (Captain Blackadder)
--
1 abstain (Double A)
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11 not voting

[ByzantineKnight]

What's that? Sending in your kill orders? vote: Double A

Since I distinctly remember that the Tincow case ended with almost enough people jumping ship for him to survive, I'm going with:
Vote: Captain Blackadder

Two of the worst votes I've seen all game. FOS: Ironside and Nictel

But this one takes the cake...

Vote: Double A

[Insert obligatory stuff here to pretend I've considered this vote carefully]

Vote: johnhughthom

Any of those votes would have been fine if they weren't for the leading candidates. Sure, I haven't had a decent reason to vote intelligently so far but at least I don't place my vote on someone who has a very real chance of getting lynched...

Tally

Spoiler Alert, click show to read: 

5 Captain Blackadder (Cecil, Yaropolk, Frozen in Ice, Csargo, Ironside)
5 Double A (Skooma, Glenn, Nictel, johnhughthom, Diamondeye)
2 Skooma Addict (Greyblades, Beefy)
2 johnhughthom (Captain Blackadder, ByzantineKnight)
--
1 abstain (Double A)
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10 not voting

[Seon]

Both are suspicious

If they want a chance to live, I suggest both Double A and Capt. Blackadder to reveal to me.

[Romanic]

*rofl*

This is useless. Nobody cares about giving good reasons to vote for someone, even Seon finger suspects without saying why.

How do you expect to find the scum if you let them vote without good reasons? One of the best way to find a mafia is to look at why he votes for someone. Their reasons are necessarily flawed because they have to manufacture them, unlike townies who are really looking.

Of course if it's acceptable to vote without giving a reason, or provide some funny reasons like we've seen much, then it becomes a crapshoot, and scum will likely come ahead.

If you are a Townie, it's your duty to state valid reasons when voting.

[Beskar]

Unless you haven't got a clue except for GUTS!, then you are just chasing your own tail.

[Greyblades]

Hey! *kicks casket lid closed* Stay in your coffin beskar.

[Seon]

Indeed, on that note, can a roleblocker PLEASE reveal to me?

[Double A]

If you want to pick one between AA and CB, then pick AA. Leave Blackadder alone, he's made some good votes, unlike Double A who's been a non factor.

In case you missed it, I've just started exams. I hope that explains my sudden drop in inactivity.

[Romanic]

In case you missed it, I've just started exams. I hope that explains my sudden drop in inactivity.

I didn't talk about inactivity, I said you were a non factor.

Day 1: voted acin, he's lynched and revealed Town.
Day 2: abstain
Day 3: voted fluffy because this guy is insane and you have a gut feeling, but that might be your stomach growling (reference )
Day 4: no vote
Day 5: no vote

You're definitely a non factor, and a much better lynch than Capt Blackadder, if it comes to lynch one of you two.

However, I'd rather see JHT or Skooma be taken care of.

[Diamondeye]

Unvote:Double A, Vote:Skooma Addict

[thefluffyone93]

I didn't talk about inactivity, I said you were a non factor.

Day 1: voted acin, he's lynched and revealed Town.
Day 2: abstain
Day 3: voted fluffy because this guy is insane and you have a gut feeling, but that might be your stomach growling (reference )
Day 4: no vote
Day 5: no vote

You're definitely a non factor, and a much better lynch than Capt Blackadder, if it comes to lynch one of you two.

However, I'd rather see JHT or Skooma be taken care of.

Well, people in real life have pleaded innocent on the grounds of insanity, don't see why it wouldn't work here either!
But reading all of these posts....
Vote: Skooma Addict

[Romanic]

Updated Tally.

5 Captain Blackadder (Cecil, Yaropolk, Frozen in Ice, Csargo, Ironside)
4 Double A (Skooma, Glenn, Nictel, johnhughthom)
4 Skooma Addict (Greyblades, Beefy, Diamondeye, Thefluffyone)
2 johnhughthom (Captain Blackadder, ByzantineKnight)
--
1 abstain (Double A)
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9 not voting (claissical_hero, dcmort, God Emperor, Khazaar, landlubber, pevergreen, Rebel Jeb, Seon, Yaseikhaan)

75 minutes to go

[thefluffyone93]

No one has been WoG'ed yet right?

[Romanic]

No one has been WoG'ed yet right?

No, but if Chaotix follow through with his threat, two of them will be today (or they will be replaced).

NOT VOTING: 7 (Yaseikhaan, classical_hero, Khazaar, Rebel Jeb, Greyblades, Double A, Glenn)

The players highlighted in red will be replaced (or WoG'd if I can't find replacements) at the end of the next round if they do not show up to vote. Everyone else has been active enough in the past, but I am still disappointed that they did not even post.

That's Khazaar and Yaseikhaan (Glenn was active today)

But Rebel Jeb hasn't voted in the last 3 phases, like Khazaar, so I have to wonder why Khazaar will be WOGed and not RJ. Maybe he's mafia and has been active behind the scenes.

[Diamondeye]

Are we that pressed for time?
Anyhow, Seon's told me that Skooma was scanned inactive last night. Now, he might still be Pikachu, I think, but he's not an ideal lynch. unvote, Vote: Captain Blackadder

[Romanic]

Captain Blackadder hasn't made a bad vote since day 1.

Day 1: acin, Town, lynched.
Day 2: abstained (but would have voted TinCow if players were not asked to limit their votes).
Day 3: No vote, didn't post. Missed the day. Null-tell.
Day 4: Voted ATPG, he's a serial killer. Good vote.
Day 5: Voted Jarema, he's possibly a serial killer. Good vote.

What's the case on CB? I haven't seen a good argument against him in this thread. I hope you guys have hidden information, because he's not a good lynch.

*SIGH*

Lynch Double A instead. Did he claim to Seon?

[thefluffyone93]

Hmmmm......
Unvote; Vote: Double A

[Diamondeye]

Lynch Double A instead. Did he claim to Seon?

He claimed to me (which I forwarded to Seon). I just picked CB because he seemed the best "rescue wagon" with an hour or so to go.

[Double A]

Did he claim to Seon?

Yes.

[thefluffyone93]

DAGNABBIT!
Unvote; Vote: Abstain

I'll just sit this one out. No one seems convincing enough now.

[Romanic]

Posts by Captain Blackadder.

#322

If that is how you feel then begin by stating some views who do you find suspicious? Ask some questions, do something, do not just snipe from the sidelines.

Decent answer to Insanious who was saying that Day 1 has been useless.

#419 - Day 2 vote:

Vote Abstain

I have learnt that investigator claiming this early can mean various things. This could be a very ballsy bussing technique but he could be right and I think Tincow should go but the amount of votes on him are enough and in case he comes up with some great defence I do not want him lynched on my vote. Plus a chorus of people voting tincow is hardly helpfull

He would have voted TinCow, but explained why not. It's a decent reason, others have done the same. You cannot hold it against him that he wasn't on the TinCow wagon.

#649 - Answer to Beskar.

Town logic:
Person who gets a mafia killed = scum.
Person who tried to counter mafia getting killed = innocent.

Not really we are just saying it is a fairly large coincidence that the investigator managed to find scum night one and trusted you to reveal this information. Whilst this does not make you scum it does not preclude you from being scum though I would have to say it was a fairly ballsy move if you are scum.

He's totally right!!!!!! Beskar was scum, and probably got the result from a mafia scanner. This kind of comment makes is very unlikely that Blackadder was on Beskar's team.

#1097

I find Beskar suspicious but something about WInston's story does not ring true not sure what it is just that something feels off to me.

He's right again! Beskar is suspicious! wow!!!

#1105 - On the Beskar vs WH debate

I agree that was what is bugging me what is Beskars ability called Winston you say you know it so what is it called and what is its description?

Yeah, CB doesn't understand the situation. I didn't either. Everyone was wondering who was telling the truth between Beskar and WH. This comment is good enough in the situation, certainly nothing wrong with it.

20 minutes to go... I don't have time to list all 14 posts by Captain Blackadder, but there's no fluff posts. Everything is appropriate, with some good comments on Beskar.

Come on, let the guy live!!!! Ack!!!!

Oh well, I would have tried.

[Diamondeye]

I'd like to follow your suggestion, but at the moment, removing my vote would only tie him with Double A for twice the misery (if I've got the tally right). I need someone else active to vote

[God Emperor]

Vote: Rebel Jeb , since the threat of being replaced apparently doesn't affect him

[Romanic]

SASAKI do something!!!!

I guess it's too late. Not sure if it wouldn't be better to lynch both Double A and Blackadder.

Claiming means nothing, every scum has a cover role, and Double A is useless, unless you're seeing something that I don't.