[Council of Villains] A State of Corruption [Concluded]

[classical_hero]

I know for a fact that if we had chosen to do so we could have gone for a secondary victory of winning with the GF Survivalists and my cover role stated that my primary goal was to defeat all mafia, and my secondary goal was to join with the Samus mafia to defeat Dark Samus and the IDFH, so it is worth considering that you could lose to the Phazon team team and their IDFH team mates ans I would call them right now.

[Diamondeye]

Not that I haven't said in-thread, but here goes...

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GF Demolition Trooper

You are a Demolition Trooper serving on board the GFS Olympus.

Your unit was attacked in their quarters and you are one of the few that escaped and survived! You know that what you are dealing with here are some very dangerous hunters. But while you may seem like a grunt, you can hold your own in a firefight- you’ve had to take down Space Pirates on many occasions. You know that the carnage won’t stop until every enemy is gone.

Your alignment is Hero. (Town)

Victory Conditions:
Primary: Defeat all anti-town forces.
Secondary: None

Defensive Abilities:

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Hazard Shield: Defend against electricity-based attacks.

Shadow Shield: Defend against darkness-based attacks.

Offensive Abilities:

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None

Prime material to waste a lynch on. I've been hit with Scan, Thermal and Combat Visors and everything fits because this is how things are. I'm not scum, and I'm not hiding anything.

Now, can we find a more progressive lynch?!

[Greyblades]

Ok then, unvote

@classical_hero: If I remember correctly both sides are in the same condition; one mafia left each. If anything full town victory is the easiest win as it would just require two correct kills.

[Romanic]

I know for a fact that if we had chosen to do so we could have gone for a secondary victory of winning with the GF Survivalists and my cover role stated that my primary goal was to defeat all mafia, and my secondary goal was to join with the Samus mafia to defeat Dark Samus and the IDFH, so it is worth considering that you could lose to the Phazon team team and their IDFH team mates ans I would call them right now.

Nobody is contesting this. It's been said before that:

IDFH can win with the Phazons, if only these 2 factions are alive.
GF can win with the Bowsers, if only these 2 factions are alive.

But IDFH and GF's primary objective is to get rid of all the threats (winning with the Heroes). There's no reason to have a feud between IDFH and GF, even more so when this feud is being fueled by the mafia.

[Sasaki Kojiro]

Ok, disregarding all the problems with that claim (i.e. "GF demolition trooper...HERO faction" etc)...cover roles don't mean anything. My god.

[Romanic]

Greyblades scanned Diamondeye as having only one power on N8 (Shadow Shield)

I'm afraid i cant let you do that dave... uh anyway 2 nights ago I was given an ability called combat visor

last night I used it on diamond eye and all I found was this

I dont know if this completely absolves him, I doubt that this ability is fool proof, during my first incarnation I was given an ability that blocks investigtions, but if he was able to block it I think I would have not been able to get shadow shield out of him. As such I dont think he's mafia or at least not one of the people killing last night.

@Diamondeye: Your claim now shows 2 abilities, how do you explain it? Did you have Hazard Shield on N8 when Greyblades scanned you?


@everyone: Can anyone explain how shields work? Can you have more than once shield active at night? Are they passive or active abilities?

[Greyblades]

@Diamondeye: Your claim now shows 2 abilities, how do you explain it? Did you have Hazard Shield on N8 when Greyblades scanned you?

He could have gotten another ability last night.

@everyone: Can anyone explain how shields work? Can you have more than once shield active at night? Are they passive or active abilities?

As far as I know you can only have one on at a time and I'm not sure if they are turned on untill specifically turned off or switched.

[autolycus]

Well, just trying to guess based on what I've seen of the game so far.

47 players

3 Bowser at start: Peach, disguised as IDFH, Samus, disguised as GF. Dooblis disguised as ??

3 Phazon at start. Strife, disguised as IDFH, Dark Samus, disguised as IDFH., Pikachu, disguised as ???

Space Pirate disguised as IDFH

Omega Weapon, disguised as GF

Dedede: Disguised as IDFH

That's 9, which leaves 38 innocents of various stripes.

It seems reasonable to assume that there is symmetry between GF and IDFH and also with regards to the heroes' background.

3 GF-based Heroes are dead, 3 IDFH-based Heroes are dead.

Captain Falcon and Admiral Dane are almost certainly Heroes.

Now, we could have one more from each side as Heroes, leaving 28 to be 14 Survivalists of each type.

Or, the Captain and the Admiral could be the only remaining Heroes, leaving 30 to be 15 and 15.

11 players left.
Captain
Admiral
Pikachu
Dooplis
Vivian
Goombario
Kanden
GF Researcher
Demo Trooper?
U-mos


If all of those are real,
2 unknown characters

12 GF Survivalists dead, plus the Deleter.
9 IDFH Survivalists Dead.
Assuming symmetry, which I think is reasonable, regardless of if there are two more heroes, we have one too many GF characters. One of GF Researcher, Demo Trooper, and U-mos is a fake. Researcher used super missile. It's either Demo Trooper or U-mos. Who's our U-mos?

[Romanic]

You can add U-Mos (Csargo's true role, or cover role) and Kanden, who survived an attack by Doopliss On Night 7.

[TinCow]

12 GF Survivalists dead, plus the Deleter.
9 IDFH Survivalists Dead.

Yes, the IDFH do seem to have a significant advantage, don't they?

[Askthepizzaguy]

Ok, disregarding all the problems with that claim (i.e. "GF demolition trooper...HERO faction" etc)...cover roles don't mean anything. My god.

Almost. But I mainly agree with the rest.

[autolycus]

Diamondeye, I wasn't going to vote for you, but I think there's only one GF Hero left, and I'd expect that to be Admiral Dane. Ergo, vote:Diamondeye.

[Greyblades]

And why would you think that?