[Council of Villains] A State of Corruption [Concluded]

[PershsNhpios]

Well that seems absolutely disastrous... Aurora 242 is marked down as a "Survivalist", but one would think she is a very powerful pro-town role - if she isn't of course, we can't complain! I am just surprised to be still alive (See Active Contributor in the Glossary).

I don't think there is any point in lynching Insanious just over his annoyance at how hopeless the town is in the first few rounds. His attitude reminds me of a pure townie who is disgruntled by the lack of options.

I'd like to point something out to new players if I may - something that might be obvious but which I didn't know about 'til after Capo II.

In the forum, when you look at the thread titles, if you click on the number of replies for that thread you will be given a list of all participants and the number of posts they have made in the thread.

By clicking on this number, you will be taken to a list comprising all posts that player made in order, start to finish.

This can be an invaluable tool of analysis.


And looking at that list this morning, one of the players I am liking least, and certainly one of the least helpful is

Vote: Rebel Jeb



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Separate edit:

FoS: A possible link between Motep and Romanic.

[Motep]

In the forum, when you look at the thread titles, if you click on the number of replies for that thread you will be given a list of all participants and the number of posts they have made in the thread.

I was trying to remember how to do that....I cannot believe I forgot something so simple. So beautiful.

And by "who desired a tie", I meant those who were actively trying to get one. Clarity...maybe not my strong point this evening.

If ties have been settled without both dying in the past, forgive my error. I have little previous experience guiding me here, and that which does guide me is far from fresh.

I accept your suspicion, but all I have to give in return in fudge. Voting you would be no good right now, and as far as my suspicions go, I will hunt back in the past over yonder to the left.

EDIT #2: This will be a moment waiting. Errands on new years eve...such a pity.

[Romanic]

Separate edit:

FoS: A possible link between Motep and Romanic.

Why are you raising that possibility?

[robbiecon]

I had a strange feeling I'd be killed off last night.oh well.

[Reenk Roink]

Well that was a short experiment... Finding out that I was just a townie was even more disappointing than being killed on the first night.

[PershsNhpios]

Why are you raising that possibility?

Because it's possible.

Why, is it true?

[classical_hero]

I'd like to point something out to new players if I may - something that might be obvious but which I didn't know about 'til after Capo II.

In the forum, when you look at the thread titles, if you click on the number of replies for that thread you will be given a list of all participants and the number of posts they have made in the thread.

By clicking on this number, you will be taken to a list comprising all posts that player made in order, start to finish.

This can be an invaluable tool of analysis.

Thanks for that pro-tip. I had a feeling there was a feature like that.

[Romanic]

Because it's possible.

Why, is it true?

No. Is this a trick question? I doubt anyone would answer yes in this case, mason or scum.

Are you evading my question on purpose? I'd still like to hear why you came up with this idea and why you chose to bring this up in the game thread.

[Frozen In Ice]

Vote: Glenn Your last post doesn't sit right with me. Not the part that classical_hero qouted above, that was actually very helpful, but the rest of it. You seem to be trying very hard to appear as a helpful townie, and that "possible Motep-Romanic" link is part of it. It seems like a very fragile connection to base suspicions off of and to me it comes off as trying really hard to appear townie. Not to mention you said you already trusted Double A on day 1, that also seemed off.

[Beskar]

Alright, I will be straight to the point.

I have received a private message from some-one claiming to be an investigator. I will be extremely unimpressed if this information is false and I will out the investigator straight away. Apparently they struck one of the scum last night in an investigation and they don't want to risk exposing themselves to everybody for the obvious reasons.

They have stated they investigated TinCow and received the result of him being "Corrupted Cloud Strife" and being one of the killers last night.

Vote: TinCow


Being honest, this is too important to ignore and I suggest lynching him asap.

[Insanious]

They have stated they investigated TinCow and received the result of him being "Corrupted Cloud Strife" and being one of the killers last night.

Vote: TinCow

I don't know if I believe this "Investigator":

1st killer = Samus
2nd killer = Seems to me like Pikachu, but no idea... there's only one episode with a blue eye'd pikachu... well a Mewtwo controlled Pikachu...
3rd killer = Someone with red eyes, and kills with cold
4th killer = Dark Samus

Cloud Strife is neither: Tiny and uses lightning, nor does cloud kill with cold...

Either:

1) Inverstigator is fibbing
2) Investigation result is wrong
3) Corrupted Cloud Strife kills by freezing people and is from Kid Icarus' LP
4) Corrupted Cloud Strike is tiny and kills people with lightning

To me, just doesn't seem to fit any of the 4 killers last night, might just be me.

Edit: just changed "dark cloud strife" to "corrupted cloud strife"

[Beskar]

1) Inverstigator is fibbing
2) Investigation result is wrong
3) Dark Cloud Strife kills by freezing people and is from Kid Icarus' LP
4) Dark Cloud Strike is tiny and kills people with lightning

Being honest, I doubt the investigator would have been stupid enough to lie to me, because if TinCow gets lynched and isn't 'Corrupted Cloud Strife', I would list their name in the post right after Chaotix's write-up. Not only that, they would probably receive an angry worded private message from TinCow himself and I would be extremely unimpressed.

Plus this isn't simply a random person requesting this from me, I trust this person enough to do this in the first place, because I would inform them to do it themselves otherwise.


However, there is the obvious alternative, where you are trying to defend your scum buddy...

[Skooma Addict]

Alright, I will be straight to the point.

I have received a private message from some-one claiming to be an investigator. I will be extremely unimpressed if this information is false and I will out the investigator straight away. Apparently they struck one of the scum last night in an investigation and they don't want to risk exposing themselves to everybody for the obvious reasons.

They have stated they investigated TinCow and received the result of him being "Corrupted Cloud Strife" and being one of the killers last night.

Vote: TinCow


Being honest, this is too important to ignore and I suggest lynching him asap.

I'll bite, ol' Beskie.

Vote: TinCow

[autolycus]

Vote:TinCow
It seems like this is a win-win situation. If TinCow is Corrupted Cloud Strife, we've almost certainly taken down a scum. If he isn't, we've identified a false prophet.

[johnhughthom]

Vote: TinCow

[PershsNhpios]

Frozen In Ice, why must suspicions be based on anything strong or obvious? I believe that is what votes are for.

My suspicions could be verily placed upon anyone or anything I please to suspect, if it appears suspicious to me.

I like the way Romanic and Motep are reacting, it is jaw-droppingly suspicious.

Romanic and Motep sitting in a tree K-I-L-L-I-N-G, all T-O-W-N-I-Es.


But note that I haven't voted for them yet.

[Insanious]

Alrighty then, I'll bite

Vote:TinCow

[classical_hero]

I like Auto's analysis of the situtation, so with that logic it seems best to vote:Tincow

[PershsNhpios]

Unvote; Vote: Insanious

One silly move too many Insanious; just what are you playing at?

I'm not convinced at all Beskar, you're just "being honest", I know - but this is inclined to have me doubting you.

[TinCow]

Ugh out of town and posting on phone. No time to defend myself at length due to nye party. Investigator is lying. Last night I was investigating. As proof, my result was that sasaki is Rundas, GF survivalist. He can confirm this.

[Insanious]

Unvote; Vote: Insanious

One silly move too many Insanious; just what are you playing at?

I'm not convinced at all Beskar, you're just "being honest", I know - but this is inclined to have me doubting you.

I am genuinely confused as to how I look scummy, can you please clarify? What specifically in my posts make me look like I am a RED?

[Romanic]

Not sure what to make of Insanious' analysis of who were the killers and why it cannot be this Corrupted Cloud Strife. Maybe I should read more on the characters we've seen so far.

@Beskar: Are you sure your source said that TinCow was one of the 4 killers from last night? I'm thinking that maybe he wasn't.

This stuff reminds me of a game on CFC where I was scanned on Day 1 as a threat to the nation, but I was innocent and the scanner was in fact, a bad scanner, getting wrong results, and I was lynched outright (Mars Attack! on CFC).

Anyway, I've never been big on coming out early when a scum is scanned. There's information to get from a known scum, looking at his posts and his votes, and I wish our scanner would have waited to see his 2nd result, simply on the possibility that his scans are not reliable.

Anyway, such a claim is too strong to ignore, so...

vote: TinCow

[PershsNhpios]

7 TinCow (Beskar, Skooma Addict, autolycus, johnhughtom, Insanious, classical_hero, Romanic)

2 Insanious (YLC, woad&fangs)

1 Motep (Sasaki)

1 Glenn (Frozen In Ice)

1 Rebel Jeb (Glenn

1 Abstaining (Nightbringer)
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Unvote; Vote: Rebel Jeb Sorry Insanious, my vote may have been unfounded - I need to reread this new escapade of Beskar's.

Apologies!

[Death is yonder]

This is indeed a situation where it is too good to pass over should the information be true.

Vote: Tincow

However, I cautiously note the eagerness in lynching the investigator should he be wrong. The current situation reminds me wayy too much of Star Wars Mafia where in a similar case, Tincow was "exposed" by an investigator who wrongly interpreted his results, and after that, got lynched himself [Rebel Jeb].

Non Vote Edit: I am curious however, as to why specifically Beskar was pmed. Why indeed? Out of all the number of people alive, and after the first night to boot (so its unlikely that said investigator scanned Beskar first).

[pevergreen]

Well that was a short experiment... Finding out that I was just a townie was even more disappointing than being killed on the first night.

I swear, whoever killed Reenk will face my wrath! KHAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAN

Ugh out of town and posting on phone. No time to defend myself at length due to nye party. Investigator is lying. Last night I was investigating. As proof, my result was that sasaki is Rundas, GF survivalist. He can confirm this.

Pending response from Sasaki -

Vote: TinCow

[Beskar]

Ugh out of town and posting on phone. No time to defend myself at length due to nye party. Investigator is lying. Last night I was investigating. As proof, my result was that sasaki is Rundas, GF survivalist. He can confirm this.

Is your night action the only thing you are denying? Because being honest, being called 'Corrupted Cloud Strife' doesn't look very Hero or GF-like.

I rather test this by fire, if the investigator is lying, they will be dead, and if you are lying.. well.. my apologises, better safe than sorry. Either way, a mafia/scum will be getting the chop. The investigator currently has more credibility at the moment, due to the fact they were specific in their result, that you are 'Corrupted Cloud Strife' and they put themselves at a big risk by requesting me to reveal this information on their behalf, as I would be first on the bandwagon for lynching them if they lied.

[Beskar]

I got more information from the Investigator.

They were only assuming that TinCow was one of last night's killers and apologises if this was incorrect, but he has revealed further information on his result.

"Corrupted Cloud Strife is a member of a faction called the Phazon"

So looks like we have a faction/group for who Corrupted Cloud Strife is working for or belong too.

Edit:

From the wikia link:

Phazon is a highly radioactive, mutagenic, and semi-sentient substance

Scans of dead troopers on the G.F.S. Valhalla also seem to indicate that Phazon found impaling troopers is absorbing the corpses and turning them into Phazon.

However, bioforms with prolonged Phazon exposure that do not die are horribly mutated. Exposure to Phazon radiation destroys brain cells and cognitive thought in sentient beings, yet it also sees a gain of muscle mass and other beneficial abilities. Phazon exposure, while destroying the mind, makes beings hunger for more Phazon. In turn, corrupted beings also have a natural instinct to protect Phazon and its source

Either the investigator knows a lot of meteroid to be able to pull something convincing, or this is a legitimate result and demonstrates the effort and thought Choatix put in the game.

[PershsNhpios]

Nonsense, Beskar, there are many more possiilities than that.

This isn't the first time an "if I'm wrong, you can all just lynch me" excuse has come up. Your investigator could be your invincible boss, or he could be an innocent townie which you intend to frame, or he could be non-existent.

I know this is too logical for most to comprehend, but maye we should suspend ALL votes on TinCow until we hear from Sasaki, since it is easier to get everyone to place a vote than it is to have them unvote. Bandwagons tend to be irreversible when it comes to one-post wonders such as pevergreen, classical_hero, Skooma Addict and johnhughtom.

[Seon]

We have Cloud Strife on our freaking ship?....

Can this be any crazier?

[classical_hero]

Ugh out of town and posting on phone. No time to defend myself at length due to nye party. Investigator is lying. Last night I was investigating. As proof, my result was that sasaki is Rundas, GF survivalist. He can confirm this.

That might be true, but it does not make you innocent.