[Council of Villains] A State of Corruption [Concluded]

[ULC]

That is true but not a rebuttal of the reasons to vote TC. What Beskar's doing makes no sense as a mafia gambit exactly because it has time to come back and bite him.
Have you got an easier way of testing this Beskar's investigator than lynching TinCow? As far as I've understood (I don't know a lot about the universe of this game except for the few links Beskar provided and playing Super Smash Bros), TC's claim doesn't make a lot of sense.

All in all, a pretty solid case for D2.

Think about the situation for a second while the vote is swinging toward Nictel. Nictel, of all people is being lynched in favor of TC, because Sasaki finds Seon suspicious (as do I) and wants ATPG's assistance. Beskar has nothing to gain just as much as Sasaki or ATPG making it obvious they are supporting TC, a player being accused of mafia connections.

No one would really be after Nictel right now if Sasaki/ATPG did not want it. So are you suggesting that they have nothing to gain, that a Day 2 attempt to save TC will only hurt them? This isn't WIFOM, this is me asking you if you legitimately believe that Beskar will lose more than Sasaki or ATPG. If not, I don't see why you are arguing.

[TinCow]

Frankly, I think you're going to find a lot of your answers in the gameplay setup itself. Chaotix created this as a divided town modeled on Rubicon. Rubicon's divided town never really took off because I did not provide sufficient incentives for the factions to fight. There were also two pure pro-town roles that ended up being far more powerful than I anticipated. Chaotix knows this and has almost certainly adjusted the mechanics to ensure that some fighting between the factions will occur. I think it is very likely that some townie factionalists have various goals and/or abilities that are designed to cause a bit of chaos. Some of that is likely at work here.

[Diamondeye]

Think about the situation for a second while the vote is swinging toward Nictel. Nictel, of all people is being lynched in favor of TC, because Sasaki finds Seon suspicious (as do I) and wants ATPG's assistance. Beskar has nothing to gain just as much as Sasaki or ATPG making it obvious they are supporting TC, a player being accused of mafia connections.

No one would really be after Nictel right now if Sasaki/ATPG did not want it. So are you suggesting that they have nothing to gain, that a Day 2 attempt to save TC will only hurt them? This isn't WIFOM, this is me asking you if you legitimately believe that Beskar will lose more than Sasaki or ATPG. If not, I don't see why you are arguing.

It might just be because it's 4 AM, but I can't figure out what you're actually asking me here. I'll look at it again tomorrow, but I'd really appreciate it if you elaborated on what you mean.

Frankly, I think you're going to find a lot of your answers in the gameplay setup itself. Chaotix created this as a divided town modeled on Rubicon. Rubicon's divided town never really took off because I did not provide sufficient incentives for the factions to fight. There were also two pure pro-town roles that ended up being far more powerful than I anticipated. Chaotix knows this and has almost certainly adjusted the mechanics to ensure that some fighting between the factions will occur. I think it is very likely that some townie factionalists have various goals and/or abilities that are designed to cause a bit of chaos. Some of that is likely at work here.

I didn't play Rubicon, so this doesn't tell me a whole lot.
I spectated ATPG's Star Fox game... Is that a good example of a "divided town"-thingamabob?

[pevergreen]

I spectated ATPG's Star Fox game... Is that a good example of a "divided town"-thingamabob?

Kind of.

Rubicon had 2 mafia families and 2 towns. The towns could win together, or each could win with one of the mafia factions.

[Sasaki Kojiro]

DE. Investigations are nerfed. Waiting gives us info. Wasn't someone just posting about how my character was supposedly in a mafia faction? Imagine we are back in star wars mafia and you are saying "well it said he's tainted by the dark side, what better case do we have?".

What we have here with the nictel wagon is a case of "3-post player is a better lynch than the others".

[Secura]

Investigations are nerfed.

I must have missed the meeting where that information was revealed; TinCow's scan of you was accurate enough. :S

[Sasaki Kojiro]

I must have missed the meeting where that information was revealed; TinCow's scan of you was accurate enough. :S

name
which of 2 factions

Big deal?

Don't :s me. If 3 people have it so far I don't doubt that it's just minor info. Most likely if we wipe out one mafia faction it will be very useful to have the results on who belongs to the other group. Till then it should be kept private. Were you in rubicon?

[Motep]

vote: abstain

I'm just too paranoid for this game.

[Secura]

name
which of 2 factions

Big deal?

The scan of TinCow provides both a name and a faction (Corrupted Cloud Strife, Phazon), exactly as yours does; the difference is that your scan result doesn't imply that you are allied with Dark Samus.

So yes, it's a big deal.

Were you in rubicon?

No, I think it was hosted before I joined the Org, thus I've got no idea what people are talking about when they relate to that game. It's just one of a long list of great games I hear alot about but wasn't a part of, like Pirate Ship Mafia and the Capo games. :<

[ULC]

I could technically clear some of this up without quoting, based on the observations of my role PM but that might reveal too much.